Hospital Appointment Taken As Holiday

Takeaway_Addict

top_drawer wrote: »

I would be annoyed too as he's cocked up and now expects you to backtrack to account for it. Do you think maybe he actually realised and figured since your the only one (easiest?) he can disrupt then to convienently "forget" / not notice the form?

I would produce the letter and state the truth in doing so, that you made these arrangements sometime and have been treated badly as a result of his mistake. And then suggest a more full-proof method of requesting holidays which isn't so dependent on his goodwill to "notice" these forms on his desk. Also stop doing unpaid holiday as its clearly not appreciated, you have children to collect / appointments to attend / arrangements after work etc.

What your describing happens on a regular basis, where I work.

TD

And the OP made no mistake in not checking right?

duchy

As you had access to the holiday board then it's as much your fault as your boss's. If the day was important to you surely you'd have checked they had booked it. Just show them the letter ...... Your boss missed the note....but you didn't follow up either (despite knowing it's a silly system with potential for failure) The company are trying to work it out with you - just co-operate there's no reason not to.

specialboy

You requested 1 days leave by leaving a request on his desk as you normally do so its not your fault he hasn't read it, to refuse the request he needs to give notice of at least the amount of time requested so its too late for him to refuse.

Undervalued

clairey_bear wrote: »

I booked a day off as holiday as it is a hospital appointment right in the middle of the day and it's a distance away so not easy to get into work leave and return later therefore I'm giving up a days holiday.

Unless your firm has special rules allowing time off for routine medical appointments then you are not "giving up a days holiday" as you put it. Normally there is no automatic right to time off for this purpose so holiday has to be used.

Also, an employer can, with very few restrictions decide when you can and cannot take your holiday. There is therefore no alternative but to follow whatever procedures they lay down or plead a special case.

Undervalued

specialboy wrote: »

You requested 1 days leave by leaving a request on his desk as you normally do so its not your fault he hasn't read it, to refuse the request he needs to give notice of at least the amount of time requested so its too late for him to refuse.

Yes and no. Mainly no!

That would depend on whether "leaving it on his desk" was considered an adequate way to request leave. I would have thought not. Surely some response would be needed before it could be regarded as booked?

What would have happened if he had gone home sick that day for example?

Takeaway_Addict

specialboy wrote: »

You requested 1 days leave by leaving a request on his desk as you normally do so its not your fault he hasn't read it, to refuse the request he needs to give notice of at least the amount of time requested so its too late for him to refuse.

He does not need to refuse a request he has not granted. Your ideology is extremely flawed and poor,

EDIT: My view above is not correct and the employer has to make a decision. Left it though for continuity.

getmore4less

pinkshoes wrote: »

I don't see the issue in showing them the letter. Your holiday had not been approved, so if you have a medical appointment, then just show them the evidence!

As for coming back afterwards, then presumably they will be paying you for this?

For some it could be, STD, or other sensitive issue/area they don't want work finding out about, even if very vague they usualy have the consultant/team name whcih will always be a specialist area.


That aside, not checking for approval sooner was a bit of an oversight, so may be best to show the letter(it is your boss trying to save his behind) and decide how flexible you want to be in the future.

specialboy

The regulations state that the employer must give notice to 'refuse' the request. The op asked for leave but was not refused it within the required notice period.

specialboy

Undervalued wrote: »

Yes and no. Mainly no!

That would depend on whether "leaving it on his desk" was considered an adequate way to request leave. I would have thought not. Surely some response would be needed before it could be regarded as booked?

What would have happened if he had gone home sick that day for example?

If that's the way they normally book holidays off the that would be considered an adequate way to do it.

duchy

As long as the OP hasn't backed themselves into a corner by claiming the day off was for a hospital appointment to try and get the refusal over-ridden and doesn't actually have the paperwork to show-I honestly don't see why they are turning it into such a drama.