CSA Letter

PreludeForTimeFeelers

I believe that if there has been domestic abuse then there is a process in place whereby the Child Maintenance Service would be able to pass bank details between the two parties, thus avoiding any collection fees. I think that if they don't want to pass on bank details then they'd have to give a paypal account or something similar. One of the concepts behind it is that the receiving parent can't essentially force a paying parent into paying those collection fees.

HoneyNutLoop

AnxiousMum wrote: »

I'm quite sure that I've heard, or read somewhere, that if there is any risk of violence or abuse, (and it's documented?) that you would not be required to deal direct, and I'm sure - no charges for you either. I may be wrong.....but sure I've read that (and...it would be the right thing to have happen!)

It is only the £20 application fee that is waived for victims of domestic violence, and only if they confirm it has already been reported to one of a long list of various organisations or individuals.

There is no such waiver for the collection fees. The only way to avoid them is Direct Pay or making your own arrangement outside of the statutory service.

As Prelude has said, much research and debate has gone into finding a reliable and free method of transmitting payments that won't reveal location, so that those who are vulnerable aren't at risk with Direct Pay. Other than providing said details, the design is such that they would not need any other form of contact and Direct Pay can still work. CMS will still complete annual reviews, changes in circumstance and will accept a request for Collect and Pay if a payment due under Direct Pay is missed or short. Of course, both parents would then have to pay the collection fees.

furby-2003

does the fee still stand if you don't know how to find them?. I don't think even they can find him to be honest! I haven't had direct contact with him since he turned up on my doorstep unexpectedly when my son was 9 and i turned him away in horror as i'd moved twice and before then the contact stopped when he was 3 after my ex was put in jail. My son is nearly 14 now. I'm quite happy to receive payment in any form when it comes but i certainly wouldn't want contact and neither does my son.

13Kent

We are nearing the end of our liability now, and after the dishonesty of the PWC (saying she'd not received payments which CSA believed and therefore we incurred arrears for money already paid once among other things) we would rather pay via CSA than direct to her so that the payments are monitored in some way so we wouldn't want our case to be closed, especially now that the end is in sight - and would be nearer if they wouldn't keep raising the end age!!

HoneyNutLoop

Furby, yes the application fee would still stand in those circumstances (when it comes in).

13Kent wrote: »

We are nearing the end of our liability now, and after the dishonesty of the PWC (saying she'd not received payments which CSA believed and therefore we incurred arrears for money already paid once among other things) we would rather pay via CSA than direct to her so that the payments are monitored in some way so we wouldn't want our case to be closed, especially now that the end is in sight - and would be nearer if they wouldn't keep raising the end age!!

If the youngest child on the case will reach 20 years of age before 31/12/2017, your case will be excluded from the case closure regime and will remain on its existing scheme until its natural end point.

furby-2003

I only have the 1 on it and he will be 17 then

DUTR

13Kent wrote: »

We are nearing the end of our liability now, and after the dishonesty of the PWC (saying she'd not received payments which CSA believed and therefore we incurred arrears for money already paid once among other things) we would rather pay via CSA than direct to her so that the payments are monitored in some way so we wouldn't want our case to be closed, especially now that the end is in sight - and would be nearer if they wouldn't keep raising the end age!!

I prefer to pay via the csa too, but for different reasons.

HoneyNutLoop wrote: »

Furby, yes the application fee would still stand in those circumstances (when it comes in).



If the youngest child on the case will reach 20 years of age before 31/12/2017, your case will be excluded from the case closure regime and will remain on its existing scheme until its natural end point.

That's good to know (if true) .

furby-2003

would I be any more likely to get a payment though? Would it even be worth pursuing? I can't guarantee i get anything now. Sorry for all the questions. I don't really bother calling them anymore to be fair and treat each payment as a nice surprise. usually around £10-20 every few months. It went to court and he pleaded no money so according to legal enforcement because a judge decided he need only pay the minimum his debt which is 13k, so his payment is £10 per month which doesn't happen so he will be dead before he pays it off. crazy!

HoneyNutLoop

DUTR wrote: »

I prefer to pay via the csa too, but for different reasons.



That's good to know (if true) .

DUTR, sourced from here: https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&ei=2CZ9U_CQHM_07AaT7oD4Ag&url=https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/261988/child-maintenance-ending-liability-scheme.pdf&cd=4&ved=0CDEQFjAD&usg=AFQjCNH4z3AnELhUzRugmNasUpJmYSo7yw

Furby - it's difficult to know if it would be any different. CMS has closer links with HMRC than the CSA, but there still isn't a silver bullet for the self-employed. The question will be if the possibility is worth £20 to you?

cakeforbrains

I'm confused about when this will be rolled out. I am a PWC on CSA2. My ex has £4k of arrears and pays directly from his wages due to non-compliance. I've not had a letter about it. When is it likely to kick in for us?