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  • kidmugsy
    kidmugsy Posts: 12,709 Forumite
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    edited 22 May 2014 at 12:10PM
    If you are already a pensioner but you defer your pension AFTER the new scheme starts will you still get the old 10.4 increase per year of deferral?

    I expect that the deferral rules will trundle on unchanged for people on old-style pensions, but I am guessing. The booklet linked below is dated April 2014, which is before parliament adopted the new rules I think.

    https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/299286/dwp024-apr-14.pdf
    Free the dunston one next time too.
  • Cyberman60
    Cyberman60 Posts: 2,472 Forumite
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    kidmugsy wrote: »
    I expect that the deferral rules will trundle on unchanged for people on old-style pensions, but I am guessing. The booklet linked below is dated April 2014, which is before parliament adopted the new rules I think.

    https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/299286/dwp024-apr-14.pdf

    I cannot remember where I read it but the 10.4% will not exist under the new system.
  • Jack_Itin
    Jack_Itin Posts: 340 Forumite
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    edited 22 May 2014 at 6:11PM
    Apparently, the scheme that I am in is '' contracted out of S2P'' in plain simple english please, what does this mean ? and how, if at all, will this affect me if I go ahead and take what is offered ?......Jack
    Retired (Early) April 2015
  • kidmugsy
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    Cyberman60 wrote: »
    I cannot remember where I read it but the 10.4% will not exist under the new system.

    That's right, it'll be 5.2% for new-style pensions. But the question is whether it remains at 10.4% for old-style. And we await a comment from somebody who knows.
    Free the dunston one next time too.
  • greenglide
    greenglide Posts: 3,301 Forumite
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    kidmugsy wrote: »
    That's right, it'll be 5.2% for new-style pensions. But the question is whether it remains at 10.4% for old-style. And we await a comment from somebody who knows.
    Have they actually announced that? I thought it was just what had been talked about as being "more sustainable"? Would the class 3a announced rate be a guide?

    I wouldn't be surprised if the accrual rate for all new deferrment or suspension changed from April 2016 for fairness. I would be annoyed otherwise having missed out on the offer by 6 weeks!
  • Cyberman60
    Cyberman60 Posts: 2,472 Forumite
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    Surely deferring even at 10.4% is not worth it as you are giving up just a year's pension of nearly £6,000 which would take years to retrieve by which time you could be dead anyway. It makes no sense to me at all.
  • Triumph13
    Triumph13 Posts: 2,080 Forumite
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    Cyberman60 wrote: »
    Surely deferring even at 10.4% is not worth it as you are giving up just a year's pension of nearly £6,000 which would take years to retrieve by which time you could be dead anyway. It makes no sense to me at all.

    Unless you have a medical condition likely to shorten your life, it's one of the best investments around and about 3 times better than a commercially available annuity!

    It's fully index linked and you are quids in after less than ten years vs the average life expectancy at SPA of more than double that.
  • Jack_Itin
    Jack_Itin Posts: 340 Forumite
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    So, what is S2P.......anyone ?......Jack
    Retired (Early) April 2015
  • jem16
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    Jack_Itin wrote: »
    So, what is S2P.......anyone ?......Jack

    State 2nd Pension, previously known as SERPS.
  • Jack_Itin
    Jack_Itin Posts: 340 Forumite
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    Thanks Jem, I wonder if it will affect me ?......Jack
    Retired (Early) April 2015
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