Can my employer deduct my wages if I leave?

bevanuk

You have a verbal agreement.
If he can or not isn't relevant at this point:
1) Does he remember?
2) Is he going to do it?

If both the answers are yes, then he probably will and you will have to fight him to get the money back - I have no idea if you would win or not thats above me.

I wouldn't be happy paying for someone else's training for me lose that money because they want to leave. You agreed to it.

Undervalued - I'm not going to research someones profile to find everything about them before I respond. Just reply to the thread in question. Even if they have mistreated etc, unless it all started in the last 3 months (after taking the course) it's irrelevant.

BillJones

Undervalued wrote: »

Right ???

In the OP's other thread he complains about having been badly treated by the company in a number of ways.

I don't know the rights and wrongs of that and, with respect, neither do you. Obviously we have only heard one side.

Yes, in which the employee admitted that they made a deal, leave within a year, pay back the costs. They therefore need to do so.

getmore4less

Icematikx wrote: »

From Direct.GOV:

Your employer isn’t allowed to make deductions unless:

• it’s required or allowed by law, eg National Insurance, income tax or student loan repayments
• you agree in writing
• your contract says they can
• there’s a statutory payment due to a public authority
• you haven’t worked due to taking part in a strike or industrial action
• there’s been an earlier overpayment of wages or expenses
• it’s a result of a court order

If he deducts my pay without me agreeing in writing, then he's acting illegally, right? There's nothing in my contract to state he can.

There is a very subtle but important thing you need to understand.

He will not be deducting anything, just not paying you.

He will not be taking money off you, he will just not be giving it to you

YOU then need to take him to court to get him to pay you.

Icematikx

getmore4less wrote: »

There is a very subtle but important thing you need to understand.

He will not be deducting anything, just not paying you.

He will not be taking money off you, he will just not be giving it to you

YOU then need to take him to court to get him to pay you.

And if he doesn't pay me, there's no way around it. I've worked the hours at the set rate.

Undervalued

This is becoming stupid!

The law requires a SIGNED agreement for training costs to be recoverable.

There isn't one.

If they deduct unlawfully (or not pay what is owed - same thing!) you can sue them for the money. Based on what has been posted here you will win.

Whether or not this is morally right, due to the verbal agreement you mention, is something only you can decide.

getmore4less

Icematikx wrote: »

And if he doesn't pay me, there's no way around it. I've worked the hours at the set rate.

You have to sue him or convince him that is what you will do so he pays.

pawsies

Is it worth a poor reference from him though?

BillJones

Icematikx wrote: »

And if he doesn't pay me, there's no way around it. I've worked the hours at the set rate.

Then I genuinely hope that he sends a reference making clear what sort of person your next employer would be getting.

Icematikx

BillJones wrote: »

Then I genuinely hope that he sends a reference making clear what sort of person your next employer would be getting.

There's far more going on than I've spoke about. For example, I found out the admin, who just got sacked, was on £1k more than me. All she did was update spreadsheets and e-mail clients. Hardly a difficult job. Yet my boss tells me, "You're on the same salary as everybody else".

I took a day off in illness and had the boss interrogating me for half an hour asking whether I'd been for an interview, who with, where at.. Yet I was at home, feeling rather ill.

It isn't an enjoyable place to work, and I've realised that now after several months. I now know why there's constantly people in and out - nobody truly enjoys working for him.