SMA Progress - Tesco wouldn't sell it today!!

matt1982_2

There's now been two instances of an SMA Recall this week, so check your batch numbers of SMA Gold and SMA Progress. For more questions you can call the careline (they helped me replace my gold batch last week) on FREEPHONE 0800 7762900

RustyFlange

Thankyou for the info ... I have just stopped using this but still have a tin on the offchance she isn't completely settling on coo juice!

frostyspice

brummiebabe wrote: »

This leads to another problem - what do I give her now????

How old is she? You could take this opportunity to start giving her ordinary cow's milk. SMA Progress is a bit of a rip-off - an unnecessary product which plays on your anxieties as a mother. It's just a clever marketing ploy to keep you buying SMA products long after your child has stopped needing formula.

LillyJ

frostyspice wrote: »

How old is she? You could take this opportunity to start giving her ordinary cow's milk. SMA Progress is a bit of a rip-off - an unnecessary product which plays on your anxieties as a mother. It's just a clever marketing ploy to keep you buying SMA products long after your child has stopped needing formula.

This is rather dangerous advice without giving an age limit on it.
Children under the age of 12 months should NEVER be given cow's milk. It can lead to serious health problems including anaemia.
After 12 months full fat milk should be given.

Formula milk is not a rip off. If you have stopped/never started breast feeding (which most people have by age 12 months) then there is no alternative.

daphne_descends

Lilly, you are wrong. Cow's milk is perfectly safe - you imply that it is dangerous. It just should not be the main drink of a baby under 12 months. It can be given in cooking, cereal, or as a drink but formula or breast milk should still be given as well.

Most people do stop breast feeding before 12 months, yes, but the World Health Organisation recommends that breast feeding continues to 2 years of age.

Formula is a rip off though, when compared to the cost of cow's milk. You don't think SMA make it for fun, do you?

LillyJ

fac73 wrote: »

Lilly, you are wrong. Cow's milk is perfectly safe - you imply that it is dangerous. It just should not be the main drink of a baby under 12 months. It can be given in cooking, cereal, or as a drink but formula or breast milk should still be given as well.

Most people do stop breast feeding before 12 months, yes, but the World Health Organisation recommends that breast feeding continues to 2 years of age.

Formula is a rip off though, when compared to the cost of cow's milk. You don't think SMA make it for fun, do you?

No, and I am not stupid, (I once got told off for stating my qualifications on here so won't) But I can assure you I am not wrong, and have not read it in the paper to get my info.

The poster above me suggested that the child in question be transferred on to cow's milk, which has insufficient iron for a child under 12 months. This is quite clearly wrong information.

So you cannot just stop buying formula milk below the age of 12 months. Certainly breast feeding is the best option but in the UK doing this until age 2 does not fit most of our lifestyles. Therefore most people have no other choice than to buy formula milk. If you can think of another alternative other than breast milk then well done you, but you can't.

If you don't believe me ask a doctor or a midwife.

Asda don't make bread for fun either doesn't mean it is a rip off.

Read the poster above me's post again. It quite clearly says that the child doesn't need formula, when they have no clue as to the child's age.

frostyspice

LillyJ wrote: »

Read the poster above me's post again. It quite clearly says that the child doesn't need formula, when they have no clue as to the child's age.

Read my post again - I start it by asking how old the child is!!!

LillyJ

fac73 wrote: »

My goodness, where to start?

Why on earth would I be interested in your qualifications?

I did not mention the post above yours, only what you posted. You said:

and you are wrong.

That is all I was commenting on. So I stand by my post, you were wrong, simple as that.

I am not sure what lifestyle has to do with breast feeding.

And in my experience doctors and midwives are among the least knowledgeable people when it comes to breast feeding, so no, I won't ask one of them anything about it. I am not suggesting that people don't use formula milk as an alternative to breast milk - what an absurd thing to say, I am not sure how you got that from my post? I am merely correcting the misinformation you supplied that cow's milk cannot be given to babies under 12 months old, when it can. A lot of people lurk on MSE and don't post, and it is for their benefit that I am pointing out that you are wrong.

Formula is a rip off and it is overpriced. Compare it to the cost of cow's milk, not bread. ASDA aren't responsible for the health of millions of babies, I don't expect them to have a conscience, but SMA and Milupa etc ARE and I DO expect them to have a conscience. They don't, however.

I am afraid you seem to have got a bit over excited about this. The fact is, right or wrong, most people DON'T breast feed until age 2. Therefore there NEEDS to be an alternative, and that is NOT cows milk.

Therefore SMA and the like are needed to keep babies healthy.

What else do you propose? That people concoct their own little recipes suited to their babies? Or do you propose government enforcement of breast feeding?

Actually don't answer that, I don't need to get into a breast feeding argument, I am all for it, but the fact is that MOST people don't do it for any real length of time.

hellokittygal

'Whole Milk does not contain enough nutrients, vitamins or minerals for it to adequately sustain a growing infant. We are told to NOT give baby milk until after 1 year of age mostly because milk is NOT enough to meet all of baby's specific nutritional requirements during the first year of life. Babies should be on breast milk or formula or a combo of both until after 1 yr old.'

http://www.wholesomebabyfood.com/dairy.htm

Over a year old a baby could have full fat cows milk and not formula milk.
Around 10 months old, cows milk could be given for 1 feed and formla for the rest. Cows milk doesn't have the added vitamins that Formula has. And yes, i agree it is expensive but so are nappies. Are nappies a waste of time? would you rather put a baby in pants?

Money_Maker_Shaker

What a fun debate, thought I'd stumbled into The Arms by mistake!

So just to try and summarise for the help of the OP. If your baby is under 1 year old & you are not breast feeding then it looks like you need to find some 'safe' SMA or an alternative infant formula, hopefully your baby won't mind the change or perhaps try some SMA ready mix in the short term. And if your baby is over 1 than you've also got the option of switching to cows milk as their main drink. I'm in the camp that babies don't need formula over the age of 1 but that is my personal decision after doing my research.

Hope you got yourself sorted.

Best wishes

MMS