'I make £120,000 but I can’t recall the last time we went out for dinner’

MrRee_2

I haven't read all the replies but I think I am safe in the knowledge that my opinion will be a little extreme for some tastes on here.

He has elected to educate his two sons privately, that has to be applauded - surely?

His family is taking nothing from the taxpayer - applauded again.

He takes nothing from the state in schooling or anything else for that matter - applauded again.

He only earns £120,000 - which, really, honestly, isn't that much these days .... not if you are successful, and that success has to be applauded too.

I take my hat off to the bloke and his family - they are, essentially, winners. Their two boys will be winners and their offspring winners too! They will marry winners and contribute massively to society.

As opposed to losers, who moan, take everything from the state and give nothing back, sit on their rear ends in some Council Estate somewhere complaining that they need their backsides wiping because they can't be 4rsed to do it themselves ...... if anyone needs highlighting as stupid it is these ....

N1AK

PasturesNew wrote: »

£45k/year, just on school fees is the average full-time salary, before tax, of two people .... so he's made the choice not only to educate privately, but to do it expensively.

£45k per year for two kids isn't expensive for public schooling. The fact you think it is just emphasis the disconnect between people's vision of how people earning this kind of lifestyle live and how they actually live.

A friend of mine in the military is mulling over sending his three kids to public school. Why? Because the MoD will fund 75% of the fees! Even then it's going to cost something like £8k per year per child. So to do it for all three from Year 7 to A levels is going to cost him £168,000, but would cost a normal family £672,000!

N1AK

sulphate wrote: »

Why doesn't this guy downsize? Snob value, I imagine.

He's got a £350k mortgage that's hardly luxury villa territory

Principia_2

MrRee wrote: »

I take my hat off to the bloke and his family - they are, essentially, winners. Their two boys will be winners and their offspring winners too! They will marry winners and contribute massively to society.

As opposed to losers, who moan, ...

Isn't the point though, that they don't feel like winners and are moaning about it?


So they are winners who are acting like losers.


Hard for us real losers to feel much sympathy for them

MrRee_2

£350k would barely get you a beach hut where I am - and that's the truth!

Some people have a real disconnect with the way things really are .... it could be me and those who work, live and breathe success of course .....

MrRee_2

Principia wrote: »

Isn't the point though, that they don't feel like winners and are moaning about it?


So they are winners who are acting like losers.


Hard for us real losers to feel much sympathy for them

The real point is that they ARE winners .... however they see themselves today (just over the past 5 years been squeezed).

In the same way that losers are losers even though they laugh at those they watch on Jeremy Kyle as losers .... while they are just the same, drinking, smoking, tattoos, no teeth, lazy slob 4rsed losers ....

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Just because he's got a £350k mortgage doesn't mean he lives in a £350k value house, does it?

Out,_Vile_Jelly

I know this could be another thread topic, but I am intrigued by the concept that an expensive education is automatically "the best start in life." You have to check very carefully what the fees are paying for, as it often isn't the teachers' salaries. A good friend of mine went to a private school until the age of 13 and hated it. He says the standard of teaching and the general atmosphere at the local comp were so much better, but he doesn't like to mention it to his dad as he knows how expensive the first school was.

I know this is really mean of me, but I did snigger when I met some posh types whose privately educated son hadn't even scraped a B in A Level Geography and therefore couldn't get into his first university choice. What a waste of money when they all get straight As these days!

Friends of my age who earn significantly more all have huge mortgages, run two cars, spend loads on grocery shopping and branded items, have the full Sky package but no savings and moan about being skint. I earn a secretary's wage but consider I eat well, make the most of living in London, enjoy hobbies & travelling and have money in the bank.

A couple I know made the decision to live off one salary when they had kids; meaning no foreign holidays, no luxuries and a very slow ongoing house DIY project. Many people cannot physically contemplate a reduction in outgoings once they have reached a certain earnings threshold; for them such a step is unacceptably regressive.

MrRee_2

Teachers salaries are poor, you're right - they are around £55k in Private Education.

What Private Education gets you is networking - you WILL get a high paid job and no mistake.

It is admirable to send your child to Private School ..... sadly, I didn't, as I'm not actually that generous

sulphate

MrRee wrote: »

£350k would barely get you a beach hut where I am - and that's the truth!

Some people have a real disconnect with the way things really are .... it could be me and those who work, live and breathe success of course ....

I don't really understand what you're getting at, perhaps because I don't "breathe success" as you put it...

MrRee wrote: »

I take my hat off to the bloke and his family - they are, essentially, winners. Their two boys will be winners and their offspring winners too! They will marry winners and contribute massively to society.

And you know this how? As someone who was privately educated and has many privately educated friends, some of which were genuinely skint and on benefits for sometime after moving out of home, others who graduated university 5 years ago and still aren't working, I'm intrigued.

Out,__Vile_Jelly wrote: »

I know this could be another thread topic, but I am intrigued by the concept that an expensive education is automatically "the best start in life." You have to check very carefully what the fees are paying for, as it often isn't the teachers' salaries. A good friend of mine went to a private school until the age of 13 and hated it. He says the standard of teaching and the general atmosphere at the local comp were so much better, but he doesn't like to mention it to his dad as he knows how expensive the first school was.

I know this is really mean of me, but I did snigger when I met some posh types whose privately educated son hadn't even scraped a B in A Level Geography and therefore couldn't get into his first university choice. What a waste of money when they all get straight As these days!

Friends of my age who earn significantly more all have huge mortgages, run two cars, spend loads on grocery shopping and branded items, have the full Sky package but no savings and moan about being skint. I earn a secretary's wage but consider I eat well, make the most of living in London, enjoy hobbies & travelling and have money in the bank.

A couple I know made the decision to live off one salary when they had kids; meaning no foreign holidays, no luxuries and a very slow ongoing house DIY project. Many people cannot physically contemplate a reduction in outgoings once they have reached a certain earnings threshold; for them such a step is unacceptably regressive.

I agree and relate to the rest of your post, just wanted to say that many people who send their children to private school don't just do it because they want their kids to get straight As. The only reason a parent should consider doing it because they want to and can afford it. That's it. Any parent who thinks that their child getting a place at a private school will automatically guarantee them straight As and success in life could well be setting themselves up for major disappointment.