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When do Micro inverters or Solaredge make sense

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  • tunnel
    tunnel Posts: 2,601 Forumite
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    reloaded25 wrote: »
    Thanks for the advice guys, I have settled on a string inverter (Aurora power one) due to my very minimal shading. As suggested by some one we'll put the panels that do have minimal shading on one string and the rest on another. Opted for the 833 Eternity because of their reduced degradation and a top quality mounting system. Ended up at £5700 for a 4kw system and monitoring a device, could have gone cheaper but I am happy with the company I have selected. Once installed and up and running I'll post a review but for now I'd like to say a genuine thank you to all those that have commented.


    When your up and running, pop over to here https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/3853851, post your daily/weekly/month/year/anything and see how like minded folk are doing.


    PS. You could thank people for their input by clicking the green ticked thanks button at the bottom of everyones posts.


    PPS Nice price!!
    2 kWp SEbE , 2kWp SSW & 2.5kWp NWbW.....in sunny North Derbyshire17.7kWh Givenergy battery added(for the power hungry kids)
  • Martyn1981
    Martyn1981 Posts: 15,369 Forumite
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    reloaded25 wrote: »
    Thanks for the advice guys, I have settled on a string inverter (Aurora power one) due to my very minimal shading.

    Hiya. Sounds very sensible. Best of luck.

    @tunnel, it is a good price, and that's a few now on MSE recently getting quotes/installs for less than £6k.

    Do you think that's just a co-incidence, or are things starting to change again. Remember when prices started to squeeze under £6k (around late 2012 early 2013 just before the EU/China price fixing deal).

    I like to suggest aiming for under £7k and a 'tough' target of £6k, but I'm starting to wonder if £6k ain't so 'tough' anymore?

    Obviously price isn't everything, but maybe, just maybe, things are moving again.

    Mart.
    Mart. Cardiff. 8.72 kWp PV systems (2.12 SSW 4.6 ESE & 2.0 WNW). 20kWh battery storage. Two A2A units for cleaner heating. Two BEV's for cleaner driving.

    For general PV advice please see the PV FAQ thread on the Green & Ethical Board.
  • tunnel
    tunnel Posts: 2,601 Forumite
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    I'll let you know on that one mart, I've got the go ahead for a 4kWp system at my parents instead of the 8-10 they were looking at(dad can't be bothered to dig drive/garden to replace cabling for 3 phase). just waiting on their quotes, hopefully will be sub £6k


    I noticed reloaded also got a monitoring device chucked in with that price too....not a bad deal indeed.
    2 kWp SEbE , 2kWp SSW & 2.5kWp NWbW.....in sunny North Derbyshire17.7kWh Givenergy battery added(for the power hungry kids)
  • nigelpm
    nigelpm Posts: 433 Forumite
    £6k is quite do-able but the few hundred quid you save you might regret when the Chinese inverter needs to be sent back to the manufacturer and generation stops for months.

    Definitely looks like prices are heading down generally though - presumably kept artificially high whilst demand was high leading up to the tariff reduction at the end of March.
  • reloaded25
    reloaded25 Posts: 34 Forumite
    nigelpm wrote: »
    £6k is quite do-able but the few hundred quid you save you might regret when the Chinese inverter needs to be sent back to the manufacturer and generation stops for months.

    I am under the impression that power one is not a Chinese company, is that incorrect?

    I had a big range in prices, some people started at £8900 for a 4kw system but that changed very quickly. Smaller companies came in under £6k for quality kit from the start.
    16 x 250w mono 803 Eternity Panels, Aurora 3.6 inverter, owl intuition pv monitoring facing due south in sunny Norfolk.
  • groovyf
    groovyf Posts: 286 Forumite
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    I thought Power One were a US-based company? (Though I see they've just been acquired by a Swiss-based firm - ABB)
    I have a Power One UNO inverter for my system.
    4kWp system (Feb 2014) : 1.5 SW, 2.5 NE (16x Bisol BMO/250, Aurora Power-One UNO PVI-3.6 Inverter : pvoutput.org/list.jsp?id=29935
  • theboylard
    theboylard Posts: 1,211 Forumite
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    Yep, same here.

    mine was £5500, with 16 xEco Future 250w modules on 2 strings into Schuco/SMA SB3300, and L&G gen meter.
    Geo Solo PV thrown in.
    EPC was completed last year but otherwise that would have been in the price too.

    All in all, I'm happy with what I paid for what we got.

    Yes I've subsequently spent over a grand on extra bits, but when I can sell on the surplus optimisers (anyone want some!) and the SB3300, then that will reduce to around £400..... hopefully!
    4kWp, SSE, SolarEdge P300 optimisers & SE3500 Inverter, in occasionally sunny Corby, Northants.
    Now with added Sunsynk 5kw hybrid ecco inverter & 15kWh Fogstar batteries. Oh Octopus Energy too.
  • nigelpm
    nigelpm Posts: 433 Forumite
    reloaded25 wrote: »

    I am under the impression that power one is not a Chinese company, is that incorrect?

    Sorry for confusion. It was a general point not related to your kit particularly.

    Although, anything non-European would probably suffer from the same problem but clearly turnaround for a US inverter replacement will be far quicker than Chinese.
  • tunnel
    tunnel Posts: 2,601 Forumite
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    Martyn1981 wrote: »
    @tunnel, it is a good price, and that's a few now on MSE recently getting quotes/installs for less than £6k.

    I like to suggest aiming for under £7k and a 'tough' target of £6k, but I'm starting to wonder if £6k ain't so 'tough' anymore?
    Mart.


    Had the quotes in for my parents,
    16 x eco future 250W panels(suntellites) + 1 samil inverter...£5.3k, with a sunnyboy £5.6k
    or
    16 Canadian solars and samil..£5.4k, with sunnyboy £5.7k


    That's a direct E/W split
    Wonder if I can be cheaky and push it to £5k?


    tunnel
    2 kWp SEbE , 2kWp SSW & 2.5kWp NWbW.....in sunny North Derbyshire17.7kWh Givenergy battery added(for the power hungry kids)
  • Martyn1981
    Martyn1981 Posts: 15,369 Forumite
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    Strewth T, them's good prices. Perhaps they are coming down again.

    I've forgotten, what was the kW limit your parents were given? Is it worth them going to 5 or even 6kWp with the E/W split, then cap the inverter appropriately?

    Mart.
    Mart. Cardiff. 8.72 kWp PV systems (2.12 SSW 4.6 ESE & 2.0 WNW). 20kWh battery storage. Two A2A units for cleaner heating. Two BEV's for cleaner driving.

    For general PV advice please see the PV FAQ thread on the Green & Ethical Board.
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