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  • Watty1
    Watty1 Posts: 6,904 Forumite
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    Interesting calculation. My pension pot is coming along nicely - well actually its rather empty but I'm counting the equity in our other house! Need to research capital gains on that one though. Bet that will wipe out a chunk of it.
    Made it to mortgage free but what a muddle that became

    In the event the proverbial hits the fan then co-habitees are better stashing their cash than being mortgage free !!
  • edinburgher
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    Watty1 wrote: »
    Interesting calculation. My pension pot is coming along nicely - well actually its rather empty but I'm counting the equity in our other house! Need to research capital gains on that one though. Bet that will wipe out a chunk of it.

    I was just assuming pot = annual expenses x 25 (4% SWR).
  • But if Al's spending now is £26k with loads of pets and children, it will be much less in retirement so the pot won't need to be so huge?
    Paid off mortgage nine years early in 2013. Now picking and choosing our work to fit in with the rest of our lives!
    Still thrifty though, after all these years:D
  • edinburgher
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    Probably, but I can't tell Al how much she is spending, she'd need to estimate the new figure :D
  • Of course she may be planning a very luxurious old age.....
    Paid off mortgage nine years early in 2013. Now picking and choosing our work to fit in with the rest of our lives!
    Still thrifty though, after all these years:D
  • I was just assuming pot = annual expenses x 25 (4% SWR).

    Thanks for the info. :)
    It is a nice and easy short-cut to remember when thinking about pension.
    Mortgage: @ Feb. 2007: £133,200; Apr. 2011: £24,373; May 2011: £175,999; Jun 2013: ~£97K; Mar. 2014 £392,212.73; Dec. 2015: £327,051.77; Mar. 2016: ~£480K; Mar. 2017 £444,445.74
  • edinburgher
    edinburgher Posts: 13,916 Forumite
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    SWR means the pot never runs out (in theory). Good for leaving something to the kids, not so good if they're wee gits and you want to leave them nowt :rotfl:
  • Alchemilla
    Alchemilla Posts: 6,252 Forumite
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    Now my ears are burning!

    Mr Al has the same length of service but is older.

    If I went now I could draw 20/80ths (or at 50 27/80ths )which is about 10k but not until I am 60.

    We will still have DH's salary until he is 62 which would cover living expenses.

    Then he will retire and have about 16k. So there is an income gap for me between age 55 and 60.

    However there is a lump sum of 20k for each of us which I think will be bigger on retirement.

    Living expenses are likely to go down not up and alternative income is likely to go up not down.
  • edinburgher
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    Unless lump sum comes from AVCs, I wouldn't recommend it. I believe received wisdom is that defined benefit pensions should be taken as larger payments, not smaller payments + lump sum?
  • Alchemilla
    Alchemilla Posts: 6,252 Forumite
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    I think the lump sum is standard. I dont think you can take it all as payments?

    Oh I am !!!!less and clueless.

    I hadn't factored in AVCs so that is a bit extra.
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