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Starting a new business - a couple of questions please

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Hi,
I'm looking at starting my own business soon and just looking into what you can and cannot claim as Allowable Expenses. I've been reading on the HMRC website and just want to confirm a few things if that's ok?

For example - under allowable expenses it states that this includes 'the cost of goods bought for re-sale'. I will be buying stock, checking and re-selling, so just to confirm, every time I buy stock with this intention, the value comes off what I owe in tax at the end of the financial year?

I will also be getting a storage unit, and again under Allowable Expenses, it states 'rent for business premises', so does this mean that if my storage rent is £400/month, then I can claim this amount off what I owe in tax?

I also read somewhere about claiming back Paypal fees? If I sell lots of items, is there an easy way to check how much £££ in paypal fees I've paid? I presume ebay fees can't be allowed, surely?

I've already worked out the flat rate per mile for vehicle usage and the simplified home expenses rates, but hope you can help me with my other queries, thank you :-)
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  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
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    Hi,
    I'm looking at starting my own business soon and just looking into what you can and cannot claim as Allowable Expenses. I've been reading on the HMRC website and just want to confirm a few things if that's ok?

    For example - under allowable expenses it states that this includes 'the cost of goods bought for re-sale'. I will be buying stock, checking and re-selling, so just to confirm, every time I buy stock with this intention, the value comes off what I owe in tax at the end of the financial year?

    I will also be getting a storage unit, and again under Allowable Expenses, it states 'rent for business premises', so does this mean that if my storage rent is £400/month, then I can claim this amount off what I owe in tax?

    I also read somewhere about claiming back Paypal fees? If I sell lots of items, is there an easy way to check how much £££ in paypal fees I've paid? I presume ebay fees can't be allowed, surely?

    I've already worked out the flat rate per mile for vehicle usage and the simplified home expenses rates, but hope you can help me with my other queries, thank you :-)


    yes and no


    allowable expense come off your profit and not off the tax

    obviously lower profits mean less tax

    so the effect of higher allowable expenses will reduce you tax bill by 29% ish (20% tax and 9% NI) of the expenses
  • zygurat789
    zygurat789 Posts: 4,263 Forumite
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    Any expense which is incurred in earning your sales income is an allowable item whether it be ebay, paypal or your accountants's fee
    The only thing that is constant is change.
  • Thanks Clapton, I understand that any expense comes off my total profit and then I'm taxed on what's left, sorry if I sound really confused! I just wasn't completely sure if I was reading things correctly!
    So, I can claim stock bought for re-sale and business storage rent as allowable expenses - that's great :-)


    I'm not sure I understand your last sentence though? (I apologise in advance if this is really obvious, my head hurts!)
  • zygurat789 wrote: »
    Any expense which is incurred in earning your sales income is an allowable item whether it be ebay, paypal or your accountants's fee



    So after I've sold items through ebay, I can count the ebay fees and the paypal fees as expenses too and therefore not have to pay tax on these amounts?
  • keaton
    keaton Posts: 183 Forumite
    CLAPTON wrote: »



    so the effect of higher allowable expenses will reduce you tax bill by 29% ish (20% tax and 9% NI) of the expenses

    Sorry I don't understand this ( maybe I'm just tired) are you basically saying that you are taxed on the profit after all out goings (eg, rent, purchases, fee's and such) have been deducted, and tax and ni come to around 29%?

    Thanks.
    Chances are I'm in this thread asking questions as I love to learn new stuff. (Did you know all polar bears are left handed?)
  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
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    keaton wrote: »
    Sorry I don't understand this ( maybe I'm just tired) are you basically saying that you are taxed on the profit after all out goings (eg, rent, purchases, fee's and such) have been deducted, and tax and ni come to around 29%?

    Thanks.

    you work out your profit
    which is the difference between your turnover (sales) and your allowable expenses (costs)

    the tax is based on your profit

    however you have a tax allowance of 10,000 thereafter you pay 20% tax for the next 31,865

    also you pay class 4 NI which is 9% of the amount over 7956

    and class 2 NI at £2.7 per week

    check the exact amounts but that's the general idea
  • MichelleUK
    MichelleUK Posts: 445 Forumite
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    For example - under allowable expenses it states that this includes 'the cost of goods bought for re-sale'. I will be buying stock, checking and re-selling, so just to confirm, every time I buy stock with this intention, the value comes off what I owe in tax at the end of the financial year?

    You can only claim it if you have sold it on. At the end of the year, you should count up all of your stock that you have not sold and deduct this amount from the total purchases. So, the amount that you can claim would be:

    Opening stock + Purchased Stock - stock at year end = cost of goods sold
  • purdyoaten
    purdyoaten Posts: 1,159 Forumite
    Thanks Clapton, I understand that any expense comes off my total profit and then I'm taxed on what's left, sorry if I sound really confused! I just wasn't completely sure if I was reading things correctly!
    So, I can claim stock bought for re-sale and business storage rent as allowable expenses - that's great :-)


    I'm not sure I understand your last sentence though? (I apologise in advance if this is really obvious, my head hurts!)

    I hope that you will not be offended if I suggest that, by the very nature of your questions, that you do not attempt this yourself - at least in the first few years. Attempting to save on accountancy fees. the one expense which could save you most money, could cost you in the long run
    There are 10 types of people in the world - those who understand binary and those who do not. :doh:
  • trailingspouse
    trailingspouse Posts: 4,042 Forumite
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    Repeat after me - talk to an accountant, talk to an accountant.

    This is complicated stuff, and needs to be done right. They will save you much in both money and broken sleep.

    I'm off to see mine tomorrow. I'm going to suggest he puts me on commission...
    No longer a spouse, or trailing, but MSE won't allow me to change my username...
  • zygurat789
    zygurat789 Posts: 4,263 Forumite
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    So after I've sold items through ebay, I can count the ebay fees and the paypal fees and your accountants fees as expenses too and therefore not have to pay tax on these amounts?
    .................
    The only thing that is constant is change.
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