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New mortgage lending rules come in this weekend

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  • padington
    padington Posts: 3,121 Forumite
    Do you have to go through this sh*t every time your fixed rate comes to an end ?
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  • GeorgeHowell
    GeorgeHowell Posts: 2,739 Forumite
    The banks will no doubt let the FCA think that we have entered a brave new world of prudence and caution, whilst actually splurging out loans willy-nilly in order to meet their targets and secure their bonuses.
    No-one would remember the Good Samaritan if he'd only had good intentions. He had money as well.

    The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.

    Margaret Thatcher
  • Conrad
    Conrad Posts: 33,137 Forumite
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    The banks will no doubt let the FCA think that we have entered a brave new world of prudence and caution, whilst actually splurging out loans willy-nilly in order to meet their targets and secure their bonuses.

    I can tell you the news from the front line is it is very much harder to get a mortgage these days and caution is woven deeply into the system.


    Had a chap declined yesterday for the offence of having had an agreed payment holiday some five years ago.
  • BillJones
    BillJones Posts: 2,187 Forumite
    The banks will no doubt let the FCA think that we have entered a brave new world of prudence and caution, whilst actually splurging out loans willy-nilly in order to meet their targets and secure their bonuses.

    How would reckless lending get me a bigger bonus?
  • GeorgeHowell
    GeorgeHowell Posts: 2,739 Forumite
    BillJones wrote: »
    How would reckless lending get me a bigger bonus?

    What planet have you been on for the last five years ?
    No-one would remember the Good Samaritan if he'd only had good intentions. He had money as well.

    The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.

    Margaret Thatcher
  • GeorgeHowell
    GeorgeHowell Posts: 2,739 Forumite
    Conrad wrote: »
    I can tell you the news from the front line is it is very much harder to get a mortgage these days and caution is woven deeply into the system.


    Had a chap declined yesterday for the offence of having had an agreed payment holiday some five years ago.

    We've had mortgage rationing before. As far back as the 1970s there were periods of waiting lists etc. It's all about supply and demand. At the moment mainly because of historically low interest rates the demand for mortgages exceeds supply. This questionnaire business is a "worthy" way of ratioining. When rates go up and bank staff struggle to meet their lending targets they will find a way to ensure that more people meet the affordability criteria.
    No-one would remember the Good Samaritan if he'd only had good intentions. He had money as well.

    The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.

    Margaret Thatcher
  • Generali
    Generali Posts: 36,411 Forumite
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    We have rules like this in Aus and it works well or at least seems to in that none of the big Aussie banks went bust.

    The 'take away' bit isn't meant to be taken literally I don't think. However, we get asked what we pay for child care, school fees, gym memberships, Foxtel (Sky) and other subscriptions, groceries and food (I guess there are your takeaways) as well as existing credit commitments.

    The interesting part here is that any unspent credit limit on your credit card reduces the amount you can borrow. The bank has to assume that on moving in you will instantly go out and spend up to your limit on new furniture and little posters that say I <3 Financial Stability Councils.
  • BillJones
    BillJones Posts: 2,187 Forumite
    What planet have you been on for the last five years ?

    Earth. Working in an investment bank, and thuus pretty well qualified to know what does and does not affect my bonus (or lack thereof)...

    So, I'll ask again, how does reckless lending get me a bigger bonus? I know of course that it doesn't, but am curious as to what weird thinking on your part makes you believe that it does.
  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
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    We've had mortgage rationing before. As far back as the 1970s there were periods of waiting lists etc. It's all about supply and demand. At the moment mainly because of historically low interest rates the demand for mortgages exceeds supply. This questionnaire business is a "worthy" way of ratioining. When rates go up and bank staff struggle to meet their lending targets they will find a way to ensure that more people meet the affordability criteria.

    if there is truely a shortage of money for mortgages, one wonders why it's price is so low.
  • sulphate wrote: »
    However I think that looking at things like holidays and meals out is slightly over the top because most people budget for their bills and mortgage before deciding on luxury spends so if they can no longer afford/justify a takeaway twice a month most people would be happy to sacrifice it if it means paying the mortgage/being approved for one.

    Surely stuff like this will be offset by how much an applicant can show that they are saving, or have left at the end of the month.

    If you have an applicant that is constantly seeing their account hit £0 the day before payday, it surely casts doubt over their ability to cope with, for example, an interest rate rise.

    I really don't think that this is as big a reform as it is being made out. It is simply a case of lenders having to be much more careful over who they lend to.
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