How secure are new job offers

A_New_Start

Hi, I'm currently in the interview process for new employment. If they were to offer a job to me, can they withdraw for any reason.

I ask because I'm very out of touch with new jobs as been in my current job all my working life > 10 years.

I just worry that they could withdraw after I hand my notice in, no particular reason. Is there anything I should be checking if the offers come?

ohreally

A_New_Start wrote: »

I just worry that they could withdraw after I hand my notice in, no particular reason.

There have been previous threads on here where this has happened leaving folks distraught and in panic.

Undervalued

A_New_Start wrote: »

Hi, I'm currently in the interview process for new employment. If they were to offer a job to me, can they withdraw for any reason.

Short answer - Yes!

Slightly longer version.......

Apart from a few legally protected reasons (e.g race, sex and certain other types of discrimination) an employer can dismiss you without even giving a reason during the first two years. Your only entitlement would be whatever notice is specified in your contract or the legal minimum of one week for each complete year of service (up to 12). In the first month they don't even have to give any notice unless your contract says otherwise.

So if they offer you a job, you accept but they later change their mind your maximum claim would be for payment for whatever notice period was agreed.

It is possible to contractually agree all sorts of protection such as minimum periods of employment, "golden handshakes" and / or "golden hellos" but this normally only happens when you have been headhunted for a position rather than simply applying for an advertised job.

[Deleted User]

See probably the most important - the rule change made in April 2012, it's 2 years service now not 1 for protection generally - as other posters say there are some exceptions

You can ask to see contract first to make sure not 'zero hours', a sign of the times today I'm afraid, receive written letter of offer etc still to be happy in your choice and pray, I've still known employers do the right things without this down in paper to be fair, last 2 years have been rocky after I left the comfort of a 5 year job but I've learnt a lot more then if I had stayed rusty in the job! so much so that I think I now like being the Temp! there is always work going Get the Jobcentre to put a spell on you if you ever find yourself going in their direction!! hee hee! I keep joking this must have happened to me

Know your worth, be realistic and stay on friendly terms with ex employer and the interviewers you'll meet where ever possible, if it were to go wrong you have options, is my advice x

Undervalued

stephen712 wrote: »

You can email me at stephen077@gmail.com. Hopefully, I can help you.

Sorry, you may have the best of intentions but I would strongly recommend that people do not respond off board to posts like this.

With this type of board you have no way of knowing the expertise or otherwise of somebody's advice. At least if it is posted here anybody who disagrees can respond and explain why.

wapow

You want to email someone then email them. At best their advice doesn't work out and youre at square one. Doesn't matter.
About job offers, yes they can pull out. Yes it does happen. But how long can you go without a job? Try not to think that a job offer will drop. If you have the skills and experience then youll be fine.

Wyndham

Wait until you have a formal letter before resigning. It's not a guarantee by any means, but more to base it on than a verbal offer, which quite frankly means nothing!

Denning.

Undervalued wrote: »

Short answer - Yes!

Slightly longer version.......

Apart from a few legally protected reasons (e.g race, sex and certain other types of discrimination) an employer can dismiss you without even giving a reason during the first two years. Your only entitlement would be whatever notice is specified in your contract or the legal minimum of one week for each complete year of service (up to 12). In the first month they don't even have to give any notice unless your contract says otherwise.

So if they offer you a job, you accept but they later change their mind your maximum claim would be for payment for whatever notice period was agreed.

It is possible to contractually agree all sorts of protection such as minimum periods of employment, "golden handshakes" and / or "golden hellos" but this normally only happens when you have been headhunted for a position rather than simply applying for an advertised job.

Is this true? Notice period would only be relevant once the contract comes into effect. The contract only comes into effect once the stated start date as passed. No?

Another avenue would be reliance on a promise to your detriment. Having quit your job on the expressed promise of a new job which was revoked would make the promiser liable for costs, in theory.

Undervalued

Denning. wrote: »

Notice period would only be relevant once the contract comes into effect. The contract only comes into effect once the stated start date as passed. No?

No.

A contract comes into effect once it is formed. In other words once employment has been offered on particular terms and accepted then the parties are bound by it. From that point onwards, if the employer changes their mind, the employee is entitled to whatever notice period is specified. If no period is specified then the legal minimum applies i.e. zero in the first month.

duchy

This however has nothing to do with the rule changes mentioned earlier. The situation that a job offer can be withdrawn for no reason has always existed.

Undervalued

duchy wrote: »

This however has nothing to do with the rule changes mentioned earlier. The situation that a job offer can be withdrawn for no reason has always existed.

Indeed.

However that is just an extension of the fact that an employee can be dismissed during the first two years for no reason. Indeed there is no obligation to give a reason and it is often in the employer's best interest not to.