Sacked for being disabled?

PHILANTHROPIST

RichardD1970 wrote: »

Sorry, would you like to elaborate on that?

A suspected serial troll posted erroneous information and was subsequently corrected by others. How is this childish or irrelevant?

Glad to elaborate.

Childish may have been out of context for posts on this particular thread. I apologise. I should have referred to other threads where certain posts are as a minimum immature. Regardless, even on this thread, an alleged troll (TTT) appears to be condemning another alleged troll (IJS).

If a member wants to feed the trolls then kindly set up a separate kindergarden sub-forum, but pl kindly do not clutter up this excellent sub-forum with such nonsense.

Alternatively, if you, or any member for that matter, feel that a post is inappropriate, and/or of a trolling nature, then there is a forum procedure that they can follow.

tomtontom

PHILANTHROPIST wrote: »

Glad to elaborate.

Childish may have been out of context for posts on this particular thread. I apologise. I should have referred to other threads where certain posts are as a minimum immature. Regardless, even on this thread, an alleged troll (TTT) appears to be condemning another alleged troll (IJS).

If a member wants to feed the trolls then kindly set up a separate kindergarden sub-forum, but pl kindly do not clutter up this excellent sub-forum with such nonsense.

Alternatively, if you, or any member for that matter, feel that a post is inappropriate, and/or of a trolling nature, then there is a forum procedure that they can follow.

I assume TTT refers to myself. The only person that has alleged I am a troll is you, the reason being that I happen to disagree with some of your viewpoints. I would suggest you familiarise yourself with what a troll actually is, and accept the fact that not everyone is going to agree with your advice or your manner.

Nicki

This is a slightly odd first post!

The OP's partner is able to walk almost normally and doesnt need to use a wheelchair, but the OP thinks that the employer should give him credit for this. Does she then think that others with the same disability walk in an odd way for sympathy votes, or sit in a wheelchair because they are lazy? Is it not far more likely that her partner's disability is just less severe than some other peoples? I know a lot of people with mobility issues to put this in context. Some don't use their wheelchairs or sticks/crutches all the time because their mobility issues fluctuate but I don't know anyone who uses sticks or wheelchairs just for show when they don't need them!

I mention this because disability isn't like pregnancy. You can be a little bit disabled. If OPs partner doesn't need adjustments for mobility, then it isn't reasonable to expect his employers to make those adjustments or concessions. The employer is only required to do what is necessary to support the actual problems the disabled person has (not the problems others with the same disability may have) and only where this is reasonable.

Moving to the issue of time off. Is the current amount of time off unusual or is this ongoing over the whole of his employment? Takeaway addict has calculated it at 22% but that is looking at it over a 2 month period which is artificially short. What would it be over a year? Do they use any scoring system such as Bradford? What is his score against the acceptable score for a non disabled employee. As others have advised it would be a reasonable adjustment for a disabled employee with a diagnosed immuno deficiency condition to score absences in a different way. It would not however be reasonable to allow unlimited time off.

Is your partner in a union? That would be my first port of call for advice? If not, do you have legal expenses insurance as part of your contents or building insurance at home. If so, some legal advice would be a good start from a qualified solicitor with professional indemnity insurance and access to all your documentation, not an uninsured partially qualified advice worker with only half the facts on the end of a phone or a retired something with undisclosed qualifications who has been handing out rather odd advice over a series of threads for the last few months and goodness knows what by PM too.

RichardD1970

I assume by (TTT) you mean Tomtontom?

I fail to see how

Please go away

and then going on to offer useful and relevant advice is feeding the troll.

The matter of the troll (IJS) has been dealt with in an appropriate matter which is why the user and all their posts have been removed, but thanks for the advice .

Edit, we will now probably be castigated for dragging the thread off topic, which would be slightly amusing considering that it stems from PHILANTHROPIST's irrelevant opening remarks. :rotfl:

PHILANTHROPIST

RichardD1970 wrote: »

I assume by (TTT) you mean Tomtontom?

I fail to see how and then going on to offer useful and relevant advice is feeding the troll.

The matter of the troll (IJS) has been dealt with in an appropriate matter which is why the user and all their posts have been removed, but thanks for the advice .

Edit, we will now probably be castigated for dragging the thread off topic, which would be slightly amusing considering that it stems from PHILANTHROPIST's irrelevant opening remarks.

Again, I agree with edit.

Re T'ing Tom. The member's behaviour has on other threads borne a remarkable resemblance to trolling. That said, I am pleased to see that in the past week or so his posts have for the main part been more constructive.

Let's return to the subject of the thread.

t0rt0ise

Disability is such a difficult subject. You are told to state you are disabled and need adjustments but if you're not careful they judge you've gone 'too far' and aren't fit enough to do the job. So don't tell and you get the sack, ask for extra time off and you aren't fit enough and get the sack. It's becoming a no-win situation for people with disabilities.

keyser666

This threads a mess, cant follow it with posts missing, someone throw their toys out their pram?

Kayalana99

Nicki wrote: »

This is a slightly odd first post!

The OP's partner is able to walk almost normally and doesnt need to use a wheelchair, but the OP thinks that the employer should give him credit for this. Does she then think that others with the same disability walk in an odd way for sympathy votes, or sit in a wheelchair because they are lazy? Is it not far more likely that her partner's disability is just less severe than some other peoples? I know a lot of people with mobility issues to put this in context. Some don't use their wheelchairs or sticks/crutches all the time because their mobility issues fluctuate but I don't know anyone who uses sticks or wheelchairs just for show when they don't need them!

What an odd reply, my blind friend refuses to use a white walking stick so people don't look at her and see her as 'the blind girl' ...does that make her any less blind?

She's not asking for him to get 'credit' - she's merely pointing out that just because he doesn't look on the outside like he is struggling doesn't mean he isn't as he is proud to admit otherwise.

It makes perfect sense as the employer 'sees' a fit able bodied man when actually he isn't and is struggling.

[Deleted User]

Why is that other's can make 1st time posts and receive all the help in the world, no judgement, is it the poster wrote to much? style of writing not liked? regardless great way to treat someone, it seems if your proud you are in the wrong !! or have to much of what your entitled to that also gets same response round here, funny that.
OP I've learnt less is best, hope things can improve even if it means fighting tooth an nail you must!

Kayalana99

Yes I found that to - I think style of writing more so.

I saw a thread a while back when someone was on about Why should we have to pay £3000 funeral costs when they didn't get life insurance...and it got so much stick...if they had started with 'We can't afford funeral costs what can we do?' it would of been a whole other thread.