Give everyone a house to call a home

92203

IveSeenTheLight wrote: »

The problem with this is the mentality.

Give everyone a home and they will want a Ferrari next.

To own a home is not a right, it's an aspiration and reward for those that achieve it.
Take away people's aspirations and I'd hate to consider what the world could turn out to be.

Pretty much everyone in this country has a home anyway, the only difference with actually giving people a home would be Spivs, Chancers, Gen-Xers and Baby Boomers(delete as appropirate) no longer being able to extract wealth generated through the productivity of others while doing very little themselves. (Other than sitting on an asset and using their privileged / fortunate financial position to do so).

http://www.progress.org/banneker/chur.html

societys_child

floridaman wrote: »

If having a home was a basic right society would focus on other issues

As soon as you were given a house, you'd expect to be given something else, it'd never end would it.

BobQ

Generali wrote: »

I quite fancy this one but then it doesn't come with much land really:

http://www.domain.com.au/property/for-sale/house/nsw/point-piper/?adid=2010965253

you should know better than to use this forum to advertise your second home is for sale.......:)

BobQ

floridaman wrote: »

And we will change the world

Have you considered doing this without giving loads of people who already have a house another one that they can give a name?

BillJones

IveSeenTheLight wrote: »

The problem with this is the mentality.

Give everyone a home and they will want a Ferrari next.

To own a home is not a right, it's an aspiration and reward for those that achieve it.
Take away people's aspirations and I'd hate to consider what the world could turn out to be.

No need to consider it, you can see it in Tower Hamlets, New Cross, or even Basingstoke.

People like Floridaman seem not to be able to see the bigger picture, to understand the harm that it will do to everyone if people like he are given the trappings of success without any need to have worked for it. It would not even be good for him, let alone the rest of us, if he were given a house. Whatever small sense of self-worth he currently has would be taken away, replaced with only a victim mentality.

wotsthat

92203 wrote: »

Pretty much everyone in this country has a home anyway, the only difference with actually giving people a home would be Spivs, Chancers, Gen-Xers and Baby Boomers(delete as appropirate) no longer being able to extract wealth generated through the productivity of others while doing very little themselves. (Other than sitting on an asset and using their privileged / fortunate financial position to do so).

This looks like a forum turning point. I'm an early Gen X - before this post I thought I was a victim rather than oppressor.

You know you're getting older when you see history repeating itself.

Norman_Castle

floridaman wrote: »

And we will change the world

Jason74

BillJones wrote: »

No need to consider it, you can see it in Tower Hamlets, New Cross, or even Basingstoke.

People like Floridaman seem not to be able to see the bigger picture, to understand the harm that it will do to everyone if people like he are given the trappings of success without any need to have worked for it. It would not even be good for him, let alone the rest of us, if he were given a house. Whatever small sense of self-worth he currently has would be taken away, replaced with only a victim mentality.

All very true of course. 'Giving' people fundemental things like housing (except to cover short term periods of exceptional need) doesn't help anybody in the longer term, for exactly the reasons that you suggest. It's always better for people to earn them for themselves.

The issue we have at present though , is that the economics are such that for many people, there is no real prospect of them being able to "earn" such things, no matter how hard that they work. This is a huge problem imho, and represents a significant long term risk to the stability of our society. Unfortunately, none of themain political parties seem to be acknowledging the problem, let alone having a serious plan to address it.

BillJones

It's hard to know what the solution would be. I know people who are neither stupid nor incompetent, but whose decisions at school, and since, mean that they will never be in a position to own a nice house.

It was, and still is, within their grasp, but they just keep choosing to blow money, drift along at work, and blame others for their circumstances.

It wouldbe morally wrong to tax other people more to give these people something that they choose not to provide for themselves.