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would Crimea and Ukraine be closer to our own Northern Ireland /Ireland ongoing dilemma ?
Once a group of migrants has become established it is pretty difficult to tell them to "get orf my land" As they feel it is home too.0 -
Yep - has anyone explained why the people of Scotland should get self determination but not those in Crimea?
Self-determination should come with a consultation period, a proper chance for various views to be presented, a strong legal framework being put in place to give people reassurance about their status before and after, carefully monitored campaigning (to ensure nobody is being threatened or intimidated) and elections (to ensure everyone can vote according to their wishes) and a clear timetable giving everyone the chance to prepare.
The people of Crimea have a right to self-determination. They didn't get that right; they got an occupation. They had their nationality and citizenship changed in such a short time that someone who was away for a fortnight could find they left their house in Ukraine and came back to their house in Russia. The fact that many of the people in Crimea wanted it is irrelevant; laws and constitutions exist to ensure that everyone in society is protected, especially from the tyranny of the majority. Breaking the law because it's popular to do so doesn't make it right.
Edit: "Eyewitness reports of Russian troops storming a Ukrainian airbase" says the news. Just how above board does that sound? Exactly.0 -
vivatifosi wrote: »Interesting isn't it? I think it is also interesting to see what else is being reported. For example, there has been a landslip in the western USA that has killed some people. We are far more readily fed news from the USA, which is at least c4,000 miles away, rather than news from countries on the periphery of Europe which may be far more important. For example unrest in Turkey, what is happening in the Ukraine, the concerns of Poland and the Baltics to name but a few.
Many of us have many more personal links with the US. Just got back from the airport this morning picking Mrs Zag up from a flight from the same corner of the US where the landslide ocurred (although she was in the state next to the one where it happened).There is no honour to be had in not knowing a thing that can be known - Danny Baker0 -
America isn't prepared for an energy war - driving a 4 litre car is still seen, bizarrely, as being part of the American way of life. They're p**ssing away their best weapon at a rate of knots.
Perhaps they're doing that because the oil export ban is an effective subsidy on oil prices in the US.0 -
Personally I'm disappointed that the opening line of the OP didn't start with "What is it good for?" after that thread title.It's getting harder & harder to keep the government in the manner to which they have become accustomed.0
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lemonjelly wrote: »Personally I'm disappointed that the opening line of the OP didn't start with "What is it good for?" after that thread title.
Did you follow the You Tube link?0 -
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Laziness on my part meant I almost missed a treat!It's getting harder & harder to keep the government in the manner to which they have become accustomed.0 -
vivatifosi wrote: »Interesting isn't it? I think it is also interesting to see what else is being reported. For example, there has been a landslip in the western USA that has killed some people. We are far more readily fed news from the USA, which is at least c4,000 miles away, rather than news from countries on the periphery of Europe which may be far more important. For example unrest in Turkey, what is happening in the Ukraine, the concerns of Poland and the Baltics to name but a few.
Economy down the pan? populist leader feeling the heat from the internet enabled middle class? Time fora 'limited' shooting war against an international bogieman...what could possibly go wring?!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-26706417
Again just about makes the BBC frontpage....I think....0 -
lemonjelly wrote: »:rotfl:
Laziness on my part meant I almost missed a treat!
I just went back and followed it too. The strange thing was the advert before it. It was for dance music where a gun was fired in time to the beat of it. It was strangely rhythmic and good, yet totally repugnant all at the same time.Please stay safe in the sun and learn the A-E of melanoma: A = asymmetry, B = irregular borders, C= different colours, D= diameter, larger than 6mm, E = evolving, is your mole changing? Most moles are not cancerous, any doubts, please check next time you visit your GP.
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