Daughter not longer living with ex. What with CSA?

vodkaburner_2

Hi,
I have a confirmed information that the daughter I'm paying CSA for to her mother has moved out and now lives with her boyfriend. It's likely to be long term even though she's only 16. I don't think my ex is or will be eager to inform child benefit or CSA. So just wondering what I can do now? I presume phoning CSA and letting them know won't help as they will only phone my ex and ask to confirm which she probably won't do. How can I pay CSA to my daughter instead?
Any advice?
Thanks

bll78

I believe CSA is due whilst Child benefit is in payment. Your wife should no longer be claiming however that doesn't mean she isn't.
The CB payment not being claimed should stop the claim. You may have to ask your daughter to give you prove where she is living.
Be aware though I have known cases where the person paying CSA was not aware that one of his children had left, and he overpaid for 2 years. When he approached CSA and the whole thing was proved they said getting th money back was nothing to do with them. He then suggested reducing the amount of payment for the child still remaining at home, and they told him if he did they'd chase him for the full amount.
So if they're not deducting from your wage I wouldn't carry on paying in the belief that the amount will be refunded once it was all sorted.

13Kent

We had this happen. It depends firstly on how much you want to alienate your daughter by trying to prove that she has moved out. If the child has moved in with her boyfriend, if he is in a flat does he have permission from the landlord to have her living with him? Is he claming a reduction in council tax for single occupancy? If investigations are started then he could get into trouble, or even be evicted from his home possibly leading to you alienating your daughter.

- If you inform the CB that the child has moved out how do you prove it? If the PWC gets wind of it then there is nothing to stop the child moving back in (even if just for a few nights) then you have no case.

We went through every scenario in our situation, even telling the child that we would continue to support that child directly and not via the PWC via CSA, but so great was the influence of the PWC that we didn't get anywhere. The younger child started to avoid us, for fear of saying the wrong thing to us about the older one moving out of the family home. In the end we decided to bite the bullet and just continue to pay for the sake of my OH's relationship with the children.

Once we were sure the older child was working and earning a wage then we informed the CSA that we believed that CB was no longer being paid, and they investigated and found this to be the case and the older child was taken off the system. Then suddenly the child was very open about no longer living with the PWC even extending invitations for us to visit them!!

As it turned out the amount of CSA payable didn't reduce by much in the end after taking the eldest off the calculation, and ironically the PWC and the child would have been better off if they had accepted our initial offer of supporting the eldest child whilst continuing to pay CSA for the younger one - due to the greed of the PWC she lost out.

specialboy

How old is her boyfriend? He could claim child benefit and CSA for her.

jacklink

has the boyfriend has his own place ? if so inform the housing association that there are two people living at the address, as if they dont claim as living together then they are commiting fraud (if hes claiming benefits), so when housing become aware then she is a tenant in the property, if she is a tenant in another property from her mother her mother cannot claim for her, a little digging will sort this one out