Are home owners happy that prices rise and price out young

thistledome

ABetterLife wrote: »

Surely it would have been more possible then than now, though?

Limited to no help available now, but doing okay as I work alongside studying. After she's born there's CB and CTC to help alongside my maternity bursary.

When I was young, (late 1960's, early 70's) a girl in your predicament would have been limited to living with her parents, a renting a room or a bed in a hostel. Very unlikely to have got a council flat and unless she had private means, absolutely no way of buying a home.

Every working class person wants to buy a house nowadays and go to university, it's seen as a basic right. In my day we only went to university if we were very clever indeed or had money. Those of us who were poor or dim had to go to work, but at least we had a choice of jobs - factory (the best money, limited prospects ), office (the least money but the best prospects) or shop (no idea why anyone chose this option). Nowadays the poor and/or dim have very few options.

It's a vicious circle. How do we go about providing jobs for the school leavers when our industry is all but gone? That's what's at the root of it all IMO.

Prothet_of_Doom

sniffles wrote: »

I will get shot for this... But if women demanded the right to stay at home when their children need them, then house prices would not be geared to two wages.

My wife, her sister and all the women in her family agree with this statement, apart from my bra burning professional mother, who never listens to anything anyone else says if there's a chance she might have to U turn on her 1960's equality views.

The actual point where it changed was the point where the mortgage companies would only lend 3 x 1 salary or 2.5 times 2 salaries, and decided they could lend 5x2 salaries (or whatever they did)

If you can't get the loan, and nobody can get the loan, then either wages have to rise or the seller has to sell for less.

ABetterLife

thistledome wrote: »

When I was young, (late 1960's, early 70's) a girl in your predicament would have been limited to living with her parents, a renting a room or a bed in a hostel. Very unlikely to have got a council flat and unless she had private means, absolutely no way of buying a home.

Every working class person wants to buy a house nowadays and go to university, it's seen as a basic right. In my day we only went to university if we were very clever indeed or had money. Those of us who were poor or dim had to go to work, but at least we had a choice of jobs - factory (the best money, limited prospects ), office (the least money but the best prospects) or shop (no idea why anyone chose this option). Nowadays the poor and/or dim have very few options.

It's a vicious circle. How do we go about providing jobs for the school leavers when our industry is all but gone? That's what's at the root of it all IMO.

Seriously? I've known many people (not friends, just people I went to school with) who very easily got themselves a flat on receipt of a child/pregnancy. What would a homeless pregnant girl do in your day?

I agree with you though. It is.

I don't know how people felt about things then, but I feel very depressed about the way things are. I don't feel like there's any opportunities and that things are getting worse. Dunno if that's just me.

Edit: I sound quite rambly lol. Aplogies if I seem quite vague at the moment. In a weird mood.

thequant

ABetterLife wrote: »

Seriously? I've known many people (not friends, just people I went to school with) who very easily got themselves a flat on receipt of a child/pregnancy. What would a homeless pregnant girl do in your day?

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The Child would have been taken away by the state, have you never seen "Cathy Come Home" ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathy_Come_Home

ABetterLife

thequant wrote: »

The Child would have been taken away by the state, have you never seen "Cathy Come Home" ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathy_Come_Home

Children were taken from their mothers that recently?

Nope, not seen that film. Heard of this situation happening but not that recently.

smartn

ABetterLife wrote: »

Seriously? I've known many people (not friends, just people I went to school with) who very easily got themselves a flat on receipt of a child/pregnancy. What would a homeless pregnant girl do in your day?

I agree with you though. It is.

I don't know how people felt about things then, but I feel very depressed about the way things are. I don't feel like there's any opportunities and that things are getting worse. Dunno if that's just me.

Edit: I sound quite rambly lol. Aplogies if I seem quite vague at the moment. In a weird mood.

I know its very difficult for you at the moment but to me it looks like you have got your head in the right place. By working over the next few years you will increase your earnings potential quite rapidly and although I think buying in London is unrealistic there are plenty of other places in the country where nurses can buy on there salary.

I remember when I was your age I never thought I would be able to buy a house, five years later I managed to buy one and ten years after that I had paid off the mortgage. That said I was working up to 80 hours a week in a growth industry at the time and I was lucky with my timing but the thing I'm trying to say is with hard work things will improve but it does take time.

Conrad

ABetterLife wrote: »

I don't feel like there's any opportunities and that things are getting worse. Dunno if that's just me.

I'm in the S/E and have recently had a number of immigrant clients that came here with nothing and despite the downturn have built nice little business's. I think they just have this 'lets get stuck in and see where it goes' attitude.


A Romanian woman on LBC Radio was saying how she loves the UK as here she can be anything, that back home she had very few chances to better herself.


I wish you well.

ABetterLife

smartn wrote: »

I know its very difficult for you at the moment but to me it looks like you have got your head in the right place. By working over the next few years you will increase your earnings potential quite rapidly and although I think buying in London is unrealistic there are plenty of other places in the country where nurses can buy on there salary.

I remember when I was your age I never thought I would be able to buy a house, five years later I managed to buy one and ten years after that I had paid off the mortgage. That said I was working up to 80 hours a week in a growth industry at the time and I was lucky with my timing but the thing I'm trying to say is with hard work things will improve but it does take time.

Thank you, that's really sweet of you. Well done to you also!

I think that one day I'll be able to make it, but it's the kind of situations you have to put up with to get there is depressing. Maybe I'm just sensitive..

Conrad

smartn wrote: »

there are plenty of other places in the country where nurses can buy on there salary.

Gotta mention that 2 nurses (a couple) that lived above my office (in nice self contained flats) were each making well over £50k from Nursing agency work.

ABetterLife

Conrad wrote: »

I'm in the S/E and have recently had a number of immigrant clients that came here with nothing and despite the downturn have built nice little business's. I think they just have this 'lets get stuck in and see where it goes' attitude.

A Romanian woman on LBC Radio was saying how she loves the UK as here she can be anything, that back home she had very few chances to better herself.

I wish you well.

Thank you.

It's a tough one. I guess comparing to other countries we have more opportunities/state support but it just seems so damned depressing here. Stale and depressing. Perhaps it's the culture (or my perception). Sometimes it feels like you work so hard for so little gain.

What kind of jobs do these immigrants have?

I think if you have a business mind you can do well, but I'm not business minded at all really.