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There's an election coming.

Not much more than a year now to the general election. I am sending the following to all the candidates in my constituency, and I urge everyone to do the same, especially if, like me, you are in a marginal:

With the next general election little more than a year away I am writing to all of the parliamentary candidates for ******** to inform you that I will not vote for any party which does not promise to end the illegal sale of personal details by the DVLA.

If this means that I am obliged to abstain for the first time in my life then so be it.

The private parking “industry” issues 2 million fake, legally-baseless parking tickets each year for all manner of arbitrary, trumped up and trivial so-called parking contraventions on private land. These fake tickets are issued for extortionate sums (typically £100) and are enforced against the most vulnerable people using lies, intimidation and harassment.

The government put an end to the scourge of wheel-clamping, but has encouraged in its place a monster many times larger and which dwarfs wheel-clamping in the extent of its indiscriminate tyranny.

Disgracefully, the government colludes with the racket by allowing the DVLA to sell vehicle keeper personal details to the racketeers in flagrant contravention of the Data Protection Act. The private parking “industry” is entirely dependent on this supply of data for its dirty work, so the government in effect facilitates the entire rotten scam. The DVLA even allows the scammers direct electronic access to its database, whereby all they need to do is to enter a vehicle registration number to get instantly the personal details of the registered keeper, untouched by human hand and no questions asked. Effectively the bully boys, ex-clampers and thugs have unfettered access to the entire DVLA database.

This is probably the biggest, most widespread con being perpetrated against the British people today, and if you want my vote you must END GOVERNMENT COMPLICITY IN THIS EXTORTION.
Je suis Charlie.
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  • ppc_guy
    ppc_guy Posts: 412 Forumite
    With limited respect.....

    I got as far as "illegal sale of data" and gave up.

    The sale of the data is not illegal. There is reasonable cause.. The issues you have are for the amounts being sought AFTER the data is obtained.
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  • trisontana
    trisontana Posts: 9,472 Forumite
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    ppc_guy wrote: »
    With limited respect.....

    I got as far as "illegal sale of data" and gave up.

    The sale of the data is not illegal. There is reasonable cause.. The issues you have are for the amounts being sought AFTER the data is obtained.

    And as we all know the private parking "industry" is based on one big fat lie. This is that these companies can earn an income from the so-called losses they are supposed to have suffered. You cannot earn any income from that loss. it's only supposed put you back in the position you were before the parking incident.

    It was very interesting to read the recent Linkedin discussion between various luminaries of the PPC "industry" to see their mindset. They just don't get it , do they?

    http://www.linkedin.com/groups/Is-POPLA-currently-fit-purpose-3177815.S.5831405066493394947
    What part of "A whop bop-a-lu a whop bam boo" don't you understand?
  • bazster
    bazster Posts: 7,436 Forumite
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    ppc_guy wrote: »
    With limited respect.....

    I got as far as "illegal sale of data" and gave up.

    The sale of the data is not illegal. There is reasonable cause.. The issues you have are for the amounts being sought AFTER the data is obtained.

    With no respect whatsoever, that's a classic case of "you would say that wouldn't you". Where the data is being obtained for the purpose of levying charges which have no lawful basis then there is no reasonable cause.

    I wouldn't expect PPC scum to like this. After all, PPC's and the BPA Ltd. can schmooze and glad-hand and lobby and lunch all they like, but one thing they CANNOT do is vote.
    Je suis Charlie.
  • bod1467
    bod1467 Posts: 15,214 Forumite
    bazster wrote: »
    but one thing they CANNOT do is vote.

    Yes they can - individually. But their votes carry no more weight than yours, mine or anyone's. ;)
  • bazster
    bazster Posts: 7,436 Forumite
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    bod1467 wrote: »
    Yes they can - individually. But their votes carry no more weight than yours, mine or anyone's. ;)

    The companies can't vote, and as individuals there's a lot more of us than them. And as far as I know there are no PPC's headquartered in my constituency and hence probably none of their staff, so they are on as-many-people-as-I-can persuade to nil in this three-way marginal.
    Je suis Charlie.
  • The_Deep
    The_Deep Posts: 16,830 Forumite
    edited 7 March 2014 at 10:58AM
    My advice would be to tone it down a bit, nay, a lot. It makes you sound unhinged.

    It's complicated, there is nothing illegal about the DVLA selling RK information to anyone with reasonable cause, so far, most of these companies are adduced to have it. The problem is not with them getting it, but what they do with it.
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
  • HO87
    HO87 Posts: 4,296 Forumite
    ppc_guy wrote: »
    With limited respect.....

    I got as far as "illegal sale of data" and gave up.

    The sale of the data is not illegal. There is reasonable cause.. The issues you have are for the amounts being sought AFTER the data is obtained.
    That is baloney and you know it. The reason the data is obtained is to enable PPC's to pursue the amounts they do and to pretend otherwise is delusional. I would have far less issue if PPC's applications for data were vetted. The reason there are so many applications is less to do with the number of so-called parking infringements and everything to do with the utter lack of incentive for PPC's to actually manage rather than farm car parks and the ease with which the data may be obtained. If V888's had to be submitted for each and every event the edifice would collapse. From that point of view the government, courtesy of the DVLA, facilitate the whole shabang.

    I know from previous posts that your views are not those shared by the majority of the mainstream PPC's but please don't spoil the illusion.
    My very sincere apologies for those hoping to request off-board assistance but I am now so inundated with requests that in order to do justice to those "already in the system" I am no longer accepting PM's and am unlikely to do so for the foreseeable future (August 2016). :(

    For those seeking more detailed advice and guidance regarding small claims cases arising from private parking issues I recommend that you visit the Private Parking forum on PePiPoo.com
  • bargepole
    bargepole Posts: 3,238 Forumite
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    bazster wrote: »
    The companies can't vote, and as individuals there's a lot more of us than them. And as far as I know there are no PPC's headquartered in my constituency and hence probably none of their staff, so they are on as-many-people-as-I-can persuade to nil in this three-way marginal.
    Baz, I don't think any of the three main parties are likely to include this in their manifesto.

    The only party I could see making that sort of commitment would be UKIP.

    I have been providing assistance, including Lay Representation at Court hearings (current score: won 57, lost 14), to defendants in parking cases for over 5 years. I have an LLB (Hons) degree, and have a Graduate Diploma in Civil Litigation from CILEx. However, any advice given on these forums by me is NOT formal legal advice, and I accept no liability for its accuracy.
  • Hot_Bring
    Hot_Bring Posts: 1,596 Forumite
    ppc_guy wrote: »
    With limited respect.....

    I got as far as "illegal sale of data" and gave up.

    The sale of the data is not illegal. There is reasonable cause.. The issues you have are for the amounts being sought AFTER the data is obtained.

    And yet more and more Judges are showing that Parking Eye "contracts" are full of holes and unenforceable meaning Parking Eye DO NOT have reasonable cause.
    "The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality in times of moral crisis." - Dante Alighieri
  • nicechap
    nicechap Posts: 2,852 Forumite
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    If you're going after the UKIP vote, what about mentioning PPCs only pursue british registered cars and EU immigrant cars can park with impunity.
    Originally Posted by shortcrust
    "Contact the Ministry of Fairness....If sufficient evidence of unfairness is discovered you’ll get an apology, a permanent contract with backdated benefits, a ‘Let’s Make it Fair!’ tshirt and mug, and those guilty of unfairness will be sent on a Fairness Awareness course."
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