Can old employer allegedly pass bad references?

Jamie94

Bantex wrote: »

OP has resigned. So no dismissal.

Yes, the way I understand it is the OP resigned giving notice they intend to leave 2 months from the date of such notice.

But the OP keeps saying the employer wants them to leave sooner. Without mutual agreement, the only way I can see this happen (without going into the discussion of eligible notice periods that was addressed in the other thread) is for the employer to give notice terminating the OP's employment earlier.

But the OP has previously denied this. Hence why this thread is so confusing.

I think the OP needs to come clean and give us all the facts if they wish to receive useful advice

Otherwise, they may as well cut to the chase and tell us the answer/advice they want to hear.

andreauk2009

Jamie94 wrote: »

If your current employer is wanting you out quick, it doesn't sound like they are likely to provide you a glowing reference ... for essentially the same reasons as they are unlikely to provide a bad reference. i.e. they wouldn't want to be embroiled the possible litigation that may ensue.

Well... I'm not definitely keen to have any reference from them for any other 1000 reasons (E.g. They are making a loss of -40% a year and they making people redundant blaming on them they were not able to make numbers, when in reality all suggestions given also from this person have been ignored).

And if I could I would happily delete them from my profile on linkedin.

My worries are whether a future employer may decide to pick up the phone and give them a call.

marybelle01

jacques_chirac wrote: »

Knowing the facts of Przybylska, I would not be surprised if a future tribunal chose to differentiate from it and form a conclusion based on Poppie68's reasoning (which is similar to that of the first tribunal). Keep in mind that whilst precedent does form law, it is often very easy to disregard it, especially in first tier cases.

A tribunal does not have the authority to overrule case law formed by an EAT. They can make a mistake, yes - that is why things end up in EAT's! But if push came to shove and the OP wished to go to a tribunal (whether it is worth it given the cost is another matter) then the OP can now quote the relevant case law. It would be a foolhardy tribunal that deliberately went against case law knowing that they did so.

yvonne13_2

I read it as OP was told they didn't pass probation so they tried to resign before being let go by saying the company made changes to the targets which they couldn't acheive.

My question would be why didn't you resign when they changed the targets???

andreauk2009

yvonne13 wrote: »

I read it as OP was told they didn't pass probation so they tried to resign before being let go by saying the company made changes to the targets which they couldn't acheive.

My question would be why didn't you resign when they changed the targets???

Targets have been progressively changed. Initially it has been asked, but I did not agree.

After the probation day the target have been officially changed. So, yes I did resign.

sensibleadvice

andreauk2009 wrote: »

Well... I'm not definitely keen to have any reference from them for any other 1000 reason. And if I could I would happily delete them from my profile on linkedin.

My worries are whether a future employer may decide to pick up the phone and give them a call.

They may well do that, especially when it's a recent previous employer or if references skip the last employer.

goonarmy

andreauk2009 wrote: »

I'm not Brit, and I will be surprised to have a perfect English though all my efforts to improve my skills. But I guess that such criticisms could be left out your comments if you want to be constructive.


What details do you need? Have you spent some time reading the entire thread, or you drawn your conclusions from a couple of answers?
This is - unfortunately - a very bad habit I've seen more than once (and not necessarily on this forum).

Quite simply you havent read and/or understood a lot of the posts and you arent willing to help others help you. You wont get far with that attitude. Seems strange you failed your probabtion....:rotfl: