Trying to find employment rant

fufu_banterwaite

jacques_chirac wrote: »

In that case you need to look at how you come across to others. In an interview you have a short time to make a positive impression. Here you come across as very negative, to some extent that you can't be bothered, even that you think you are doing the employer a favour - definitely not the impression you want to give. Sorry to be blunt, but if it helps you get a job ...

I agree. Maybe rework your interview technique?

DKLS

midimanuser wrote: »

Assumption.

A classic example of someone that doesn't know you and is forming an opinion of you. Based on their belief and not facts.

This is exactly what is happening as you speak to the interviewer.

Exactly that's why you need to switch it around so the recruiter is making positive assumptions about you, you really don't have long to make an impression and the recruiter doesn't have the time to find out all the facts about you.

AP007

melysion wrote: »

Unfortunately, although I agree with you to some degree, it really does come down to whether those that are interviewing you think they will get along with you or not. After all, if employed, you are going to be spending a good proportion of your time with them.

I understand your frustration, but ranting about it wont change a thing. Just keep going with those applications. You will reap the rewards eventually.

I used to work with someone who never fitted in and hardly spoke. Never came out to lunch with any of us and was rather odd but my boss somehow gave her the job.

Prothet_of_Doom

Okay, you've thrown out a cry for help and it's easy to see from absolute frustration.

I'm not sure who said it, perhaps Einstien, but if you keep banging your head against the same wall, in the same way, and expect a different result, then that is the definition of true madness.

You are clearly banging your head hard, so I think we collectively can help you.

But this interview tomorrow, think about what pressures the person interviewing is under. Think about what his boss is measuring him on. The worst that he could do is employ someone who turns out to be a slacker, or who his boss doesn't like, so you have to coinvince him that he'll get praise for his brilliant descision.

Incidently I got a "Won't fit in with the team" the other month, because I think I came across a bit flippant. It was a role I could do with my eyes closed, and I blew it, by not realising that to them it was really really important that they get someone with no sense of humour (German company)

makeyourdaddyproud

WAs the 4 months x £0 income worth the defiance so far?

Sparhawke

Prothet_of_Doom wrote: »

Okay, you've thrown out a cry for help and it's easy to see from absolute frustration.

I'm not sure who said it, perhaps Einstien, but if you keep banging your head against the same wall, in the same way, and expect a different result, then that is the definition of true madness.

You are clearly banging your head hard, so I think we collectively can help you.

But this interview tomorrow, think about what pressures the person interviewing is under. Think about what his boss is measuring him on. The worst that he could do is employ someone who turns out to be a slacker, or who his boss doesn't like, so you have to coinvince him that he'll get praise for his brilliant descision.

Incidently I got a "Won't fit in with the team" the other month, because I think I came across a bit flippant. It was a role I could do with my eyes closed, and I blew it, by not realising that to them it was really really important that they get someone with no sense of humour (German company)

Insanity is defined as doing the same thing repeatedly expecting a different result ~ Einstein

On a completely different note, what about asking the interviewer right at he start what kind of person they are specifically looking for and then tailoring your own answers to their expectations?

If you don't do this you are shooting apples in a barrel of piranhas.

Bantex_2

midimanuser wrote: »

Assumption.

A classic example of someone that doesn't know you and is forming an opinion of you. Based on their belief and not facts.

This is exactly what is happening as you speak to the interviewer.

I worked in a team of over 30 people supporting, 2500 users in a fast paced, dynamic organisation.

I had to be an exceptional team player.

I could tell them this, or a wave an A1 reference at them to collaborate what I am saying.

But, at the end of the days it's whether they like you are not.

You need to work on getting people to like you then.
You come over as a bit of an arrogant whiner in your posts, and if this is the way you act at interviews you are unlikely to get employed.
This is the real world with all its faults.

gingerdad

midimanuser wrote: »

Assumption.

A classic example of someone that doesn't know you and is forming an opinion of you. Based on their belief and not facts.

This is exactly what is happening as you speak to the interviewer.

I worked in a team of over 30 people supporting, 2500 users in a fast paced, dynamic organisation.

I had to be an exceptional team player.

I could tell them this, or a wave an A1 reference at them to collaborate what I am saying.

But, at the end of the days it's whether they like you are not.

To me and i recruit regularly its as important to fit into the dynamic of the team as it is to be able to do the job. I've just filled two posts with in my team and had over 100 applicants to choose from, it really is an employers market.

I think you need to adjust your sights a little or you'll be sat there in two years time still without a job

mattcanary

makeyourdaddyproud wrote: »

WAs the 4 months x £0 income worth the defiance so far?

hardly being defiant.

Frustrated yes.

And fact he/she worked for one company must show some commitment/reliability/willingness to get on with colleagues etc.

And wht the hell does "fitting in to the team" really mean, other than does the interviewer like the candidate?

mattcanary

gingerdad wrote: »

To me and i recruit regularly its as important to fit into the dynamic of the team as it is to be able to do the job. I've just filled two posts with in my team and had over 100 applicants to choose from, it really is an employers market.

I think you need to adjust your sights a little or you'll be sat there in two years time still without a job

What does "fitting into the dynamic of the team" really mean? Or is is really managerial jargon that translated means : " do I like the candidate I'm interviewing"?