We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.

This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.

📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!
The Forum now has a brand new text editor, adding a bunch of handy features to use when creating posts. Read more in our how-to guide

Goodwill Gesture but with conditions

Hi all,

I'm hoping you will have some advice on this as Google can't give me an answer related to the UK.

For two years I've been fighting for a refund (which will be used to pay off a chunk debt - hence the relevance). I do not owe the company involved any money.

I have received a letter which states in the final paragraph (aftrr a lot of argumentative waffle) that they will refund "as a gesture of goodwill" but only if I provide evidence of the emails I sent that weren't responded to and an itemised phone bill proving I called them.

My thinking is that a gesture of goodwill is an action with no gain for the party offering it other than a quick close to the matter with no acceptance of liability. So its not something you can add conditions to.

I'm currently planning to send a letter telling them this and enclosing copies of the emails (as my own gesture of goodwill ;)). I'm not sure I can get the phone bills as I called from a PAYG mobile so currently can't send this. Accepting the payment and stating that I will collect a cheque from their office in person in a week (it's an estate agent and they won't want me popping up at their office during a busy period ;)) I have also asked them to provide proof or an explanation of how they record incoming calls to prove these calls were (as they claim) not received. They have ignored this completely.

What are your thoughts?

Kate x
LBM 17th Oct13 - SC DMP - DFD 10th Feb 2018
paid pre-DMP £6146 :D paid with DMP £2275 :D F&F's £700 (£450 discount) £1,000 (£1,498.22 discount) £ 700 (489.62 discount) :D Total £9725

Current debt to repay £3,503.13 taking one day at a time

Comments

  • Just to add I'll be sending the letter recorded as the last letter was apparently not received when I queried the lack of response yet they've sent me a copy of the response to it dated last December (?!?) after I emailed every available company email address - at their request and received a snotty response from their MD telling me to stop emailing all departments.

    Kate x
    LBM 17th Oct13 - SC DMP - DFD 10th Feb 2018
    paid pre-DMP £6146 :D paid with DMP £2275 :D F&F's £700 (£450 discount) £1,000 (£1,498.22 discount) £ 700 (489.62 discount) :D Total £9725

    Current debt to repay £3,503.13 taking one day at a time
  • What they are saying is "If you agree to drop it, completely, including waiving the right to sue us, we will give you X, BUT ONLY if you prove it"
  • I have had money from banks a few times with the gesture of goodwill caveat. Means they do not accept liability.

    You could always take them to the small claims court if you are confident of having a good case. That threat may alone remove their stupid call proof demands and get your cash.

    How much is it?
    :beer:
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 354.2K Banking & Borrowing
  • 254.3K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 455.3K Spending & Discounts
  • 247.2K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 603.8K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 178.4K Life & Family
  • 261.3K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.1K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.7K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.