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Three Months Notice

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  • getmore4less
    getmore4less Posts: 46,882 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper I've helped Parliament
    If your not doing the job right why would he want you to stay?

    Keep clam, deal with your co-workers to ease the situation for them.

    Remember if the guy acts stupid in front of others he is just giving the rest another reason to start looking.
  • When I was on 3 months notice, I offered to take 6 weeks with no holiday. And return IF required 1 day a week as a contractor, at the same daily rate for up to 6 months, (25 days max = 5 weeks work).
    My reasoning to them was that It would only take 4 weeks to document and hand over to someone else, but if they wanted to pay me for 3 months, I'd be so demotivated, that I'd do the same amount of work in 12 weeks. And the offer to come back over a much longer period was related to the fact that I couldn't anticipate what problems they might have once they had some one new in charge of it.


    and told the new place that in order to get an earlier start date, I MIGHT need to take one day a week unpaid leave over the first 6 months to support an early exit from the previous job.

    You'd think that all parties would be happy, with such a brilliant suggestion. No. Not at all. Old place held me to 3 months, and new place actually said it was too complicated to pay me like that. (how?)
  • When I was on 3 months notice, I offered to take 6 weeks with no holiday. And return IF required 1 day a week as a contractor, at the same daily rate for up to 6 months, (25 days max = 5 weeks work).
    My reasoning to them was that It would only take 4 weeks to document and hand over to someone else, but if they wanted to pay me for 3 months, I'd be so demotivated, that I'd do the same amount of work in 12 weeks. And the offer to come back over a much longer period was related to the fact that I couldn't anticipate what problems they might have once they had some one new in charge of it.


    and told the new place that in order to get an earlier start date, I MIGHT need to take one day a week unpaid leave over the first 6 months to support an early exit from the previous job.

    You'd think that all parties would be happy, with such a brilliant suggestion. No. Not at all. Old place held me to 3 months, and new place actually said it was too complicated to pay me like that. (how?)

    Sounds like your boss wanted to show others his authority over you. Pride sometimes supercedes all logic on what's more practical.
  • Maddy13
    Maddy13 Posts: 33 Forumite
    The company I worked for prior to this (for 5 years) was taken over by this company (where I have worked 2 years), and there is a note in my contract saying my continuation of service carries on. So effectively I have worked here for 7 years. My contract states that anyone over 6 years gets full pay if sick for 10 weeks.

    The stress that this has caused could see me off sick from the end of next week for 2 and a half months on full pay. If I negotiated with the new firm to await 3 months on me.

    Is there any way to hint this to current employer to let me go quietly in 1 month and provide full training to existing staff and training manuals?
  • Sam84
    Sam84 Posts: 64 Forumite
    This is a simple case of speaking to your boss / HR. You need to ask the question.

    If they need you to work 2 or 3 months notice then you need to go to your potential new employer and lay it all out for them to review.

    IF you leave early Court is unlikely, but not unheard of...it doesn't help now...but you shouldn't have agreed a start date with your new employer before negotiating your notice period.
  • Maddy13 wrote: »
    The company I worked for prior to this (for 5 years) was taken over by this company (where I have worked 2 years), and there is a note in my contract saying my continuation of service carries on. So effectively I have worked here for 7 years. My contract states that anyone over 6 years gets full pay if sick for 10 weeks.

    The stress that this has caused could see me off sick from the end of next week for 2 and a half months on full pay. If I negotiated with the new firm to await 3 months on me.

    Is there any way to hint this to current employer to let me go quietly in 1 month and provide full training to existing staff and training manuals?

    Under no circumstance do you ever threaten your employer to release you or else you would go sick on pay. Using stress as a bargaining chip is an admission you're not genuinely going to be sick, and thus gross misconduct. If you want to take sick leave then do it. Just don't mention it to anyone, even if it's a colleague you think to be a friend, that you're only doing this to pressure your employer to let you leave earlier.
  • Sam84 wrote: »
    This is a simple case of speaking to your boss / HR. You need to ask the question.

    If they need you to work 2 or 3 months notice then you need to go to your potential new employer and lay it all out for them to review.

    IF you leave early Court is unlikely, but not unheard of...it doesn't help now...but you shouldn't have agreed a start date with your new employer before negotiating your notice period.

    Court is only unlikely for unskilled jobs where it's cheaper to replace an employee than going through the hassle. The OP is a management accountant, a high paying specialist role where hiring a temp to cover him in short notice could be costly to the company. The employer has previously made an effort to keep OP by offering more money, indicating how much they value his specialist skills. It's not easy to replace a qualified accountant quickly.
  • If you break the terms of your existing contract then you will throw away any chance of receiving a positive reference for a job in which you have 7 years' continuous service. That should not be taken lightly.

    What happens if two months down the line your new employer says "look, sorry, we just can't afford you and have to let you go" - you may have a decent reference from them, but you will be in the unenviable position of having a rubbish reference from your previous job.

    Don't burn your bridges (whilst providing possibly momentary satisfaction, it is rarely ever a good idea in the long run).
  • Maddy13 wrote: »
    The company I worked for prior to this (for 5 years) was taken over by this company (where I have worked 2 years), and there is a note in my contract saying my continuation of service carries on. So effectively I have worked here for 7 years. My contract states that anyone over 6 years gets full pay if sick for 10 weeks.

    The stress that this has caused could see me off sick from the end of next week for 2 and a half months on full pay. If I negotiated with the new firm to await 3 months on me.

    Is there any way to hint this to current employer to let me go quietly in 1 month and provide full training to existing staff and training manuals?
    You sure it doesn't say discretionary?

    Don't do anything silly and abide by your contract, the one that if they were getting rid of you you would expect them to abide by.
    Don't trust a forum for advice. Get proper paid advice. Any advice given should always be checked
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