Do you support social housing?

Hooloovoo

Loughton_Monkey wrote: »

... er... I wonder why after not working for the last 20 years they wouldn't have skills?

This kind of thing annoys me so much.

People complain that no one wants their skills any more, there are no jobs available. Well how about updating your skills then and moving into a different sector? Or are they just planning on complaining for the rest of their lives?

In my job, like many jobs these days, technology is continuously moving on. I have to continuously update my skill set and keep learning new things. If I didn't I be unemployable within five years, maybe even sooner.

People complain that "there are no jobs". That's simply not true. The are hundreds of thousands of job vacancies posted up on various different websites every single day. What they really mean is "there are no jobs I can do". Is it my fault that they didn't bother to plan for their future and ensure they obtained a skill set that employers were happy to pay generously to acquire?

Or do you, like 99% of the rest of us, after fully supporting them and their kids for the last 20 years, believe they can starve on the streets before anyone cares?

Whilst the "f*ck 'em let 'em starve" attitude does have its appeal, I think I would regret taking that political stance immediately after they've broken into my house.

Benefits and social housing are necessary if only to keep the crime figures down.

Hooloovoo

N1AK wrote: »

Actually without some financial incentive to downsize you wouldn't have an incentive for people in larger council houses to downsize to more appropriate properties.

No financial incentive is necessary. It should just be a mandatory re-assessment every two years.

purch

LittleAoife wrote: »

Without the help of this home I would jot be able to do this.

Good luck to you.

I hope those who say they are against the provision of social housing read and try to understand your post.

Are they really so arrogant that they think you, and others in similar situations should live in a B&B just to satisfy their own prejudice ?

Hooloovoo

purch wrote: »

Are they really so arrogant that they think you, and others in similar situations should live in a B&B just to satisfy their own prejudice ?

Clearly I am, because I don't have any sympathy at all for anyone dumb enough to have FIVE CHILDREN before bothering to ensure their family has the security of owning their own home.

N1AK

Hooloovoo wrote: »

No financial incentive is necessary. It should just be a mandatory re-assessment every two years.

That seems like quite an expensive solution for little, if any benefit. If someone who moved into a council house 10 years ago can now afford to pay full market rent then why not let them and use the money to build more social housing?

This issue is that this is all largely pointless while we have a vast housing shortage. Without small properties for people to downsize to all we are doing is forcing people into poverty. Without more private housing, to control house pricing and rents, demand for subsidised government housing will remain far too high.

Hooloovoo

N1AK wrote: »

That seems like quite an expensive solution for little, if any benefit. If someone who moved into a council house 10 years ago can now afford to pay full market rent then why not let them and use the money to build more social housing?

How do you propose determining if they can now afford to pay full market rent without a mandatory reassessment every x number of years?

mayonnaise

Hooloovoo wrote: »

Clearly I am, because I don't have any sympathy at all for anyone dumb enough to have FIVE CHILDREN before bothering to ensure their family has the security of owning their own home.

A bit harsh, no?

The lady in question (reading her previous posts) split up with hubby, was left with the kids and is getting back on her feet.

A fine example where social housing can play a positive role.

Hooloovoo

mayonnaise wrote: »

A bit harsh, no?

Harsh? Yes, I suppose. But I still struggle to find sympathy for someone who makes a decision to create the family before creating the secure home.

CLAPTON

mayonnaise wrote: »

A bit harsh, no?

The lady in question (reading her previous posts) split up with hubby, was left with the kids and is getting back on her feet.

A fine example where social housing can play a positive role.

Is the excellent support given to parents who separate, one of the main reasons the 25% of Uk children grow up living with only one parent.
On balance is it better for family separation to be funded and supported by the taxpayer or would it be on balance better to discourage such separation.

grizzly1911

CLAPTON wrote: »

Is the excellent support given to parents who separate, one of the main reasons the 25% of Uk children grow up living with only one parent.
On balance is it better for family separation to be funded and supported by the taxpayer or would it be on balance better to discourage such separation.

How would you suggest we discourage them?