Millipede promises to drive stake through heart of Middle England support base

Road_Hog

cells wrote: »

The food argument is a red herring

We already produce virtually all the food that we eat and can be grown here.
Some ignorant people will point out that only 65-70% of the food we eat is grown here but they dont realise that you can not hit 100% without making it illegal to eat foods that wont grow here or are not in season here.

Oh really?


http://www.fwi.co.uk/articles/15/02/2011/125501/uk-self-sufficiency-in-food-how-bad-is-it.htm

cells

Out,_Vile_Jelly wrote: »

We need to look at how we use the limited land on our small island. Not just in terms of building houses, but for food production, biodiversity, infrastructure, the water table etc.

The limited land has owners it isn't a collective communally owned system

You don't decide the biodiversity or what is grown or produced those things are decided by the owners from small allotment owners to those who own tens of thousands of acres becuase their ancestor helped the then king kill a few thousand pesents that protested in some undocumented skirmish.

Also where did the notion that homes equals bad field of intensively farmed pesticide sprayed EU subsidised rape seed fields good come from??

Houses and homes are more important and more vital that subsidised mega agri businesses

cells

Road_Hog wrote: »

Oh really?


http://www.fwi.co.uk/articles/15/02/2011/125501/uk-self-sufficiency-in-food-how-bad-is-it.htm

You can't be that blinkered?

The tittles reads
Self sufficiency in food plummets since 1980...

An alternative headline which describes the exact same thing might be
Public diet now includes more food out of season vs 1980....shock horror

Eg I baught some strawberries this lunchtime. Should that be illegal since they cant be grownrin December in England??

Also manufacrured goods are now more global. Eg I know someone who owna a chocolate factory in the Midlands. They export all over Europe and they export many tonnes a day. Likewise we now import forign chocolates. Are these evils that need to be fixed?

Also bear in mind that we inport very low price foods and process them here.
Eg said chocolate factory imports sugar at about £400/tonne and turns it into chocolate at closer to £10,000 a tonne. Some bakeries will import forign flour at around £100/tonne and turn it into pastry at £5000 a tonne.

Effectively raw bulk foods. Flour corn sugar oils etc are so cheap to buy it doesn't harm our trade balance much at all. To import the 2000 calories a person needs in raw bulk goods costs as little as 5 pence or about £15 for a whole years worth of food intake

And not forgetting we waste a lot of food buying it and throwing it in the bin before we even open it