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CSA1 case moved..?
poppet2014
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hello im new to this site so please be gentle with me.
Im NRPP, my husband has been moved on to CSA2, without notice and has been paying a much higher amount for the last 6 months.
Tonight, ive been having a nose on the internet about CSA etc and came across this ( see below)
Please can someone correct me if im wrong but... i think the CSA might have made a mistake. Neither my husband or the PWC has been linked to a new application.
What would you do in this situation? please point out anything i might be missing here - very confused....??
Many thanks!!
***Why is my child maintenance changing?
At present we work out your child maintenance using the rules of
what we call the ‘old scheme’.
From 3 March 2003 the way we work out child maintenance for
new applications changed to make it simpler to manage, easier
to understand and better suited to parents’ needs. We call this
the current scheme.
The current scheme does not change:
• who can qualify for child maintenance
• how child maintenance should be paid, or
• what powers we have to enforce payments.
If a case that was set up on the old scheme becomes linked to
a new child maintenance application made on or after 3 March
2003, we have to move that case to the current scheme.
Why can a case become ‘linked’?
Cases can only become linked when a new application to
arrange child maintenance through us affects either the parent
with care or the non-resident parent involved in an old-scheme
case. We must use the same rules for working out child
maintenance for the children in linked cases, so we have to
move old-scheme cases to the current scheme.
6My case is moving to the child maintenance
scheme introduced in 2003 – what will change?
For example, we will move your case to the current scheme if:
• you are a parent with care who already receives child
maintenance for one child, and
• you have made a new application for another child on or after
3 March 2003, and
• that child has a different non-resident parent to the child you
already receive child maintenance for.
We have to work out the child maintenance for both children
using the same rules, even though different non-resident
parents are involved.
This means we have to move the first child maintenance case
from the old scheme to the current scheme.
Another example of when we will transfer child maintenance
cases to the current scheme is if:
• you are a non-resident parent paying child maintenance
under the old scheme, and
• you have a child with another person, and
• that person makes a claim for child maintenance through us.
We have to move your case to the current scheme because:
• your children have different parents with care, and
• we have to use the same rules for both cases to work out
how much child maintenance you must pay for all the
children in both cases
Im NRPP, my husband has been moved on to CSA2, without notice and has been paying a much higher amount for the last 6 months.
Tonight, ive been having a nose on the internet about CSA etc and came across this ( see below)
Please can someone correct me if im wrong but... i think the CSA might have made a mistake. Neither my husband or the PWC has been linked to a new application.
What would you do in this situation? please point out anything i might be missing here - very confused....??
Many thanks!!
***Why is my child maintenance changing?
At present we work out your child maintenance using the rules of
what we call the ‘old scheme’.
From 3 March 2003 the way we work out child maintenance for
new applications changed to make it simpler to manage, easier
to understand and better suited to parents’ needs. We call this
the current scheme.
The current scheme does not change:
• who can qualify for child maintenance
• how child maintenance should be paid, or
• what powers we have to enforce payments.
If a case that was set up on the old scheme becomes linked to
a new child maintenance application made on or after 3 March
2003, we have to move that case to the current scheme.
Why can a case become ‘linked’?
Cases can only become linked when a new application to
arrange child maintenance through us affects either the parent
with care or the non-resident parent involved in an old-scheme
case. We must use the same rules for working out child
maintenance for the children in linked cases, so we have to
move old-scheme cases to the current scheme.
6My case is moving to the child maintenance
scheme introduced in 2003 – what will change?
For example, we will move your case to the current scheme if:
• you are a parent with care who already receives child
maintenance for one child, and
• you have made a new application for another child on or after
3 March 2003, and
• that child has a different non-resident parent to the child you
already receive child maintenance for.
We have to work out the child maintenance for both children
using the same rules, even though different non-resident
parents are involved.
This means we have to move the first child maintenance case
from the old scheme to the current scheme.
Another example of when we will transfer child maintenance
cases to the current scheme is if:
• you are a non-resident parent paying child maintenance
under the old scheme, and
• you have a child with another person, and
• that person makes a claim for child maintenance through us.
We have to move your case to the current scheme because:
• your children have different parents with care, and
• we have to use the same rules for both cases to work out
how much child maintenance you must pay for all the
children in both cases
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Comments
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Hi Poppet,
The case linking rules for a case moving from CS1 to CS2 can cause a domino effect (thankfully they reduced the linking rules for going onto CS3 so not such an issue).
A CS1 case got moved to CS2 if:
An NRP on CS1 is named as an NRP on a CS2 application;
A PWC on CS1 submits a new application on CS2;
An NRP on CS1 submits a new application as a PWC on CS2,
A PWC on CS1 is named as an NRP on a CS2 application,
A couple start claiming certain means tested benefits, one is an NRP on CS1 the other is an NRP on CS2. The NRP on CS1's case gets moved as only one deduction from benefit can be made and it has to be u der the same scheme, then split between the two NRP's cases.
A simple illustration of the domino effect:
Fred is NRP and Erica is PWC. Their case is on CS1.
Erica has another case as a PWC and Derek is the NRP. They are also on CS1.
Derek has another case as an NRP and Carol is the PWC. They too are on CS1.
Carol has another case as a PWC and Ben is the NRP. They are also on CS1.
Ben is then named as the NRP in a CS2 application made by Anne. Ben's case with Carol is also moved to CS2 as both his cases have to be under the same scheme under the CS1/CS2 linking rules. Carol's case with Derek, Derek's case with Erica, and Erica's with Fred also have to move to CS2 for the same reason.
Fred doesn't know Carol, Ben and Anne and is probably mystified by his move to CS2. But the move is entirely correct just the same.
As an aside, if your husband has been moved to CS2 and not CS3 his change in payments should be phased in. So, his payments in the first year should only have increased at most by £10 a week.I often use a tablet to post, so sometimes my posts will have random letters inserted, or entirely the wrong word if autocorrect is trying to wind me up. Hopefully you'll still know what I mean.0 -
Thanks for your reply - much appreciated. However no applications have been made unless the pwc is telling porkie pies to the csa and opened up a case with her current husband (who she is living with)
To gain more money from us0 -
poppet2014 wrote: »Thanks for your reply - much appreciated. However no applications have been made unless the pwc is telling porkie pies to the csa and opened up a case with her current husband (who she is living with)
To gain more money from us
In that case,are you sure it was moved and not closed for 13 weeks then opened as a new case?
Or has she split from her husband now possibly?If women are birds and freedom is flight are trapped women Dodos?0 -
Definitely not closed for 13 weeks and she is definitely still with her husband.
Hmmm0 -
Should have added we had a letter stating out case has been moved. .. No warnings. Just moved over.0
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If you're concerned I'd have phoned and asked why,although I'm not convince anything could be done about it.
Is there any possibility she's living with her husband but separated?Had a child by someone other than her husband?If women are birds and freedom is flight are trapped women Dodos?0 -
poppet2014 wrote: »Thanks for your reply - much appreciated. However no applications have been made unless the pwc is telling porkie pies to the csa and opened up a case with her current husband (who she is living with)
To gain more money from us
Is her husband an NRP in another case or are you? Does the PWC have another case in addition to the one with your husband? Does your husband have another case in addition to the one with this PWC?
If you suspect a fraudulent claim raise this immediately with the CSA.
Can you confirm your husband's payments are being phased?I often use a tablet to post, so sometimes my posts will have random letters inserted, or entirely the wrong word if autocorrect is trying to wind me up. Hopefully you'll still know what I mean.0 -
I can firmly confirm no other case either end. It would not surprise me if she did make a fraudulent claim. I can also confirm that looking at the payment schedule that it is phasing in.0
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My husband is the nrp, I'm nrpp
Neither her or her husband hve children with anyone else and they are happily married ( very loved up)0
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