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Which card to pay medium amounts off?

Naf
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I'm undecided where to pay extra £100-£1000 off my credit cards.
I have an Aqua card at 44.94% and a Barclaycard, some at 25.9% and some at 6.9%.
I'm pretty certain that whenever I work the Barclaycard's balance down by around £500, I'll be offered another balance transfer at 6.9%. If I had a lump sum to pay off, clearly this is the way to reduce my interest the most as I'll pay off a chunk of the Aqua card, as well as reducing some of the interest rate on some of the Barclaycard.
But does the same logic apply when I'm paying the odd £100 extra here & there; do I still save an appreciable amount of interest if I pay that off the Barclaycard in drips & drabs 'till it amounts up to a BT offer?
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  • grumbler
    grumbler Posts: 58,629 Forumite
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    edited 10 December 2013 at 10:09PM
    TBH, I struggle to understand your question, but ignoring your 'certainty' with getting a BT offer from Barclaycard you always save money by paying the higher interest balance first.
  • Eonel
    Eonel Posts: 451 Forumite
    Surely pay off the Aqua card directly. You would save you 44.94% interest of any amount paid off.

    Paying off the Barclaycard & the transfering the Aqua balance would save you the 44.94% interest - but you will incur additional interest on the Barclaycard + the balance transfer fee.

    + your ability to get a balance transfer deal is not guaranteed.
  • Naf
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    Assuming for a moment that I do get the BT deal each time (having got it before, I'm pretty confident I can negotiate it in future);
    -I save 44.94% on the Aqua card and 25.9% on the Barclaycard
    -It costs me 6.9% plus 3% fee on the Barclaycard so 9.9% (assuming paid off over 12 months)
    --That totals a 60.94% saving, which you must admit is quite attractive.

    That's the obvious course of action (risking a guaranteed saving of 44.94% to get a saving of 25.9% with a possibility of 60.94%) assuming I had a lump sum £500+ to do it with at once.
    My dilemma comes in that I don't have the lump sum, and will probably be managing around £100-£200 per month.
    So what I'm not sure about (risk of BT aside) is if, across say 3-6 months, the saving of 60.94% is very much diluted compared to the 44.94% or if there actually ends up being little difference at all.
    Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.
    - Mark Twain
    Arguing with idiots is like playing chess with a pigeon: no matter how good you are at chess, its just going to knock over the pieces and strut around like its victorious.
  • redcard
    redcard Posts: 1,563 Forumite
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    I'm no expert, but you don't add 44.9% to 25.6%
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  • Naf wrote: »

    -I save 44.94% on the Aqua card and 25.9% on the Barclaycard
    -It costs me 6.9% plus 3% fee on the Barclaycard so 9.9% (assuming paid off over 12 months)
    --That totals a 60.94% saving, which you must admit is quite attractive.

    You can't have the same balance on two cards simultaneously.
  • Naf
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    redcard wrote: »
    I'm no expert, but you don't add 44.9% to 25.6%
    You can't have the same balance on two cards simultaneously.

    Look at it step by step:
    I pay x amount off the Barclaycard which means I save 25.9% (my standard rate) on that amount.
    I pay x amount off Aqua (as a BT, but it still comes off) which means I save 44.94%.
    Total Saving: 25.9%+44.94% = 70.84%
    x amount transfers to the Barclaycard to a rate of 6.9% with a 3% fee.
    Total Cost: 6.9% + 3% = 9.9%
    Net Savings: 70.84% - 9.9% = 60.94%

    I could be wrong somewhere I guess; but I can't see where.
    Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.
    - Mark Twain
    Arguing with idiots is like playing chess with a pigeon: no matter how good you are at chess, its just going to knock over the pieces and strut around like its victorious.
  • You don't add the percentages together. It's a blend of the two rates.

    Otherwise, what if you had 5 cards, all at 20%? By your rationale, you would be saving interest of 120%.
  • Naf wrote: »
    Look at it step by step:
    I pay x amount off the Barclaycard which means I save 25.9% (my standard rate) on that amount.
    I pay x amount off Aqua (as a BT, but it still comes off) which means I save 44.94%.
    Total Saving: 25.9%+44.94% = 70.84%
    x amount transfers to the Barclaycard to a rate of 6.9% with a 3% fee.
    Total Cost: 6.9% + 3% = 9.9%
    Net Savings: 70.84% - 9.9% = 60.94%

    I could be wrong somewhere I guess; but I can't see where.

    Oh the irony of your signature!!
  • dotdash79
    dotdash79 Posts: 1,069 Forumite
    eh?

    The maths doesn't work out at all. You pay off the highest rate first, this debt is accruing at the fastest rate. Use a snowball calculator to see how it would work for you.
  • Naf
    Naf Posts: 3,183 Forumite
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    edited 10 December 2013 at 9:47PM
    You don't add the percentages together. It's a blend of the two rates.

    Otherwise, what if you had 5 cards, all at 20%? By your rationale, you would be saving interest of 120%.

    No, you don't seem to see where I'm coming from.
    Currently I pay interest on x amount on both Barclaycard & Aqua:
    x at 44.95% and x at 25.9%
    I agree, the interest on 2x isn't 70.85%; it is actually half of that, 35.425%

    But if I only have x to pay off somewhere, say it's £100 and takes a year to pay off for simplicity, then look at it again:
    -On the Barclaycard I pay off x amount with cash saving £25.90 as its no longer on the card
    -On the Aqua card I save 44.95% off x amount (it's no longer on the card as the BT pays it off) - that's £44.95 saved
    -On the Barclaycard x amount is added back on , costing £3 BT fee, and a new interest rate costing £6.90.
    Total cost if I hadn't paid anything off: £70.85
    Total cost if I pay x off Barclaycard then BT to Aqua: £9.90
    Total saving: £60.95

    EDIT: as the amount I paid off in cash was £100, saving £60.95 represents 60.95% interest saving.
    Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.
    - Mark Twain
    Arguing with idiots is like playing chess with a pigeon: no matter how good you are at chess, its just going to knock over the pieces and strut around like its victorious.
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