drive dangerously tired or get your notice

Tiddlywinks

You have a choice to make... one job vs the other.

Your primary employer has asked you to a meeting yet you are turning them down because of a second job - how do you think that looks?

As to the additional shift... I'm confused... did you work Mon-Fri on days and then work Friday on nights... that allows more than an adequate break. Why did you only manage two and a half hours in bed?

paddedjohn

If you are working mon-thur days you have 36 hrs before the Friday night shift, why is that dangerous?


Sorry 24 hours not 36, not fully awake when I wrote this as I was getting ready for another 12 hour night shift

liney

Are you saying you agreed to work the Friday night by advanced agreement, already knowing you could not sleep in the day because the children were at home from school?

Or are you saying they called you Friday afternoon and you therefore only had the opportunity to take 2.5 hours sleep?

scooby088

OP you can opt back into doing the maximum of 48 hours giving your employer the required notice a month I think. But that may mark your cards and probably end your employment with the company.

agrinnall

How long have you worked there? If it's long enough to have gained full employment rights then they can't just "be giving me my notice" (well, they can, but I think an ET would come down on your side because it's doubtful if it's breach of contract and the H&S issues would help your case - although having a second job might cause you some problems).

skivenov

rebel1012 wrote: »

Ok to get some of these things straight as some are misunderstanding ...I did 48 hours between days 1 and 4 before travel etc. During these 4 days on was begged to do nights on days 5 and 6 as they had no one to do them...I said I could do 1 night if I absolutely had 2 but wasent happy about it. So that was 60 hours ( 70 if you count travel)

Reading the letter they sent it looks like they want to make a regular thing of 4 days 2 nights or 3 days and 3 nights.

If there was any guarantee that the other job would give me 2 or 3 days a week work I would be out of there...the 2nd job I have done longer but with business slow down there is no regular work hense getting other job to make sure bills etc are paid

So you had 24 hours off between your last day and the single night shift, then presumably 72 hours off before your next night shift?

While it's true, nights f- you up (I was already f-d up, so it didn't make much difference to me), that doesn't sound too bad really.

28 12-hour night shifts on the bounce, now that's bad (trust me, been there).

makeyourdaddyproud

When your hauled in for a meeting, sleep there.

skivenov

Hahaha - done that, it wasn't a disciplinary, it was a project meeting, 6 hours after I'd got home from a night shift.

I told them I'd be there in body, but couldn't guarantee the rest.

liney

If they want to change your shift pattern permanently then as long as they give the required notice they can.

It is quite standard to have a 'cover sickness/holiday' clause, and you were given notice, but for whatever reason you decided to sleep only 2.5 hours. It does not seem unreasonable to me.

The WT Regs work on average hours over a 17 period - there would not be a breach to work more on one week for an unforseen circumstance. Plus you say you are opted out anyway.

the_insider

I think the point we're all missing here is that the OP has implied in the title of the thread that his employer is forcing him to drive when he's dangerously tired.

He's choosing to drive (rather than get to and from work by any other means) and he's choosing to do it when tired rather than having a snooze. The employer doesn't care how tired he is when be finishes or whether or not his kids are at home when he's working nights. As long as he's there and fit to perform his duties his boss is happy!