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Government gives in to energy suppliers

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  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
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    TruckerT wrote: »
    Actually, there are several so-called independent energy suppliers who appear to offer much better deals. One of them appeared on the Select Committee TV show, and said that his company was currently buying energy at a lower price than several years ago.


    For some reason, neither the Select Committee nor the meedja has taken any interest at all.


    Why are these companies described as 'independent'? In what way are the Big6 not 'independent'? Why has D.Cameron not been recommending these independents in his Parliamentary statements?


    TruckerT



    the small chappie 'forget' to mention he had recently increased his prices and of course small suppliers don't have to fund the green taxes
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  • TruckerT
    TruckerT Posts: 1,714 Forumite
    CLAPTON wrote: »
    the small chappie 'forget' to mention he had recently increased his prices and of course small suppliers don't have to fund the green taxes


    So why was/is this not headline news?


    To me it seems to open up a very interesting debate - have the small chappies had anything to say about the rolling hills of green taxes?


    I really wish I could understand what is going on here.


    TruckerT
    According to Clapton, I am a totally ignorant idiot.
  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
    michaels wrote: »
    So much complaining and yet no sign of anyone on here launching their own company to reap a share of the huge profits that the existing companies are making.

    I wonder who would supply us if we did and what rate they would want to charge us?
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

    "big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham
  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
    edited 1 December 2013 at 11:49PM
    Thrugelmir wrote: »
    NPower doesn't seem to be finding the UK market overly profitable, in fact totally the reverse. Current discussion around bills is tinkering around the edges. As the investment required to keep the lights on is considerable. If the UK is to generate more by renewables rather than importation.

    Do NPower generate? What is being reverse charged into the parent?

    They should have thought of the investment costs before entering the market. It isn't like we have just ha a Fukushima incident they have known the need for investment for decades.

    Will renewables ever be a creditable, cost affordable, solution for reliable , resiliant bulk supply?
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

    "big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham
  • Scrootum
    Scrootum Posts: 159 Forumite
    Cannot see why we are not reopening the coal mines. We have billions of tons of the stuff.
  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
    Scrootum wrote: »
    Cannot see why we are not reopening the coal mines. We have billions of tons of the stuff.

    Ssh let the other suckers use their gas supplies up first, then we can command a higher price. Cracking idea shutting them when we did.
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

    "big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham
  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
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    Scrootum wrote: »
    Cannot see why we are not reopening the coal mines. We have billions of tons of the stuff.



    there is nothing to stop anyone with a large fortune from re-opening a coal mine, as long as they doesn't mind having a small fortune in a year or two.
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  • TruckerT
    TruckerT Posts: 1,714 Forumite
    CLAPTON wrote: »
    there is nothing to stop anyone with a large fortune from re-opening a coal mine, as long as they doesn't mind having a small fortune in a year or two.


    much the same is said about windmills and waves/tides


    and those frenchies were pretty reluctant to commit to providing us with cheap nuclear


    the only source of energy which seems to have any kind of enthusiastic support is fracking


    we are fiddling while the flames die


    TruckerT
    According to Clapton, I am a totally ignorant idiot.
  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
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    michaels wrote: »
    So much complaining and yet no sign of anyone on here launching their own company to reap a share of the huge profits that the existing companies are making.

    Yer, I complain about oil prices. I do astonish myself sometimes and wonder why I bother complaining when I can simply go out, explore, drill, and refine my own.

    I mean, what could possibly stop me?
  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
    TruckerT wrote: »
    much the same is said about windmills and waves/tides


    and those frenchies were pretty reluctant to commit to providing us with cheap nuclear


    the only source of energy which seems to have any kind of enthusiastic support is fracking


    we are fiddling while the flames die


    TruckerT

    The government like fracking because of the revenue they can take off it. The prospectors like it because they can cream a fat profit off it selling on to the highest bidder when they decide to.

    Cost of extraction yet to be established but providing it is there they can wait until the time is right. They will be long gone and liquidated if necessary, before the long term environmental effects are known.

    Expecting cheap fuel is naive as that new nuclear stuff can't be undercut.
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

    "big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham
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