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Pay-Tax- NI help! please

I have just been made redundant and my former employer is giving me the run around with payslips and P45.

My question is, can anyone help with the correct pay calculation.(Not redundancy)
I understand the very basic information but.........
When i received my payslip it seemed less than what i thought i should have been paid, i then looked at my P45 and saw that my employer had put my last day of employment as 1 week earlier hense my lower than expected pay. I contacted them and after several e mails they confirmed a mistake had happened and i would get the money with a new payslip and correct P45. I then had a payment go into my bank which seemed again lower than what i thought i should be getting. I do not believe they have calculated my tax/ and national insurance calculation correctly. I have sent over 20 mails chasing this information since September and not getting anywhere.

I was hoping someone who does payslips could help me please!
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  • chrisbur
    chrisbur Posts: 4,296 Forumite
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    whitts wrote: »
    I have just been made redundant and my former employer is giving me the run around with payslips and P45.

    My question is, can anyone help with the correct pay calculation.(Not redundancy)
    I understand the very basic information but.........
    When i received my payslip it seemed less than what i thought i should have been paid, i then looked at my P45 and saw that my employer had put my last day of employment as 1 week earlier hense my lower than expected pay. I contacted them and after several e mails they confirmed a mistake had happened and i would get the money with a new payslip and correct P45. I then had a payment go into my bank which seemed again lower than what i thought i should be getting. I do not believe they have calculated my tax/ and national insurance calculation correctly. I have sent over 20 mails chasing this information since September and not getting anywhere.

    I was hoping someone who does payslips could help me please!


    Cannot really check the figures unless you give the figures.
    Also they should not issue a second P45.
  • AP007
    AP007 Posts: 7,109 Forumite
    chrisbur wrote: »
    Cannot really check the figures unless you give the figures.
    Also they should not issue a second P45.
    If all figures are correct but they short paid you and have a week earlier as the leaving date they should re instate you and pay you again and then issue a new P45 but they can not just issue a new P45
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  • whitts
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    Hi chrisbur

    Thanks for your quick reply

    I have not put the figures as i would prefer to PM them to someone that can help me.

    You have said they should not issue me a second P45, they said they would, i was unaware they could not do this. Do you know why they cannot do this and will it cause me problems ?
  • chrisbur
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    whitts wrote: »
    Hi chrisbur

    Thanks for your quick reply

    I have not put the figures as i would prefer to PM them to someone that can help me.

    You have said they should not issue me a second P45, they said they would, i was unaware they could not do this. Do you know why they cannot do this and will it cause me problems ?


    From http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/guidance/cwg2.pdf
    Page 11 for full details below is part relating to payment after P45 has been issued.....




    "Standard payments made when, or after, an
    employee leaves
    .............................................


    In such cases, you should provide the employee with
    documentary confirmation of the payment (for example by
    letter, payslip or other printed/printable document) giving
    the following details:
    • the date of the payment(s)
    • the gross amount of each payment
    • the amount of PAYE deducted from each payment
    • confirmation that the payment is a post-leaving payment.
    You must not give the employee another form P45."
  • whitts
    whitts Posts: 328 Forumite
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    That information has totally thrown me, as i do not understand why they have said they would re issue it!
    I do not feel confident that they have deducted the correct tax and national insurance from me, i think i have over paid it! Hence why i want to check it.
    I was also in a company pension and they have sent me my statement showing my incorrect leave date and contribution payment, they can only ammend this when they have been correctly updated, which they are still waiting for.
  • AP007
    AP007 Posts: 7,109 Forumite
    chrisbur wrote: »
    From http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/guidance/cwg2.pdf
    Page 11 for full details below is part relating to payment after P45 has been issued.....




    "Standard payments made when, or after, an
    employee leaves
    .............................................


    In such cases, you should provide the employee with
    documentary confirmation of the payment (for example by
    letter, payslip or other printed/printable document) giving
    the following details:
    • the date of the payment(s)
    • the gross amount of each payment
    • the amount of PAYE deducted from each payment
    • confirmation that the payment is a post-leaving payment.
    You must not give the employee another form P45."
    This is not an extra payment though is it. its the correction?
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  • whitts
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    AP007 wrote: »
    This is not an extra payment though is it. its the correction?


    Thank you for you reply, i really have no confidence on how they have accounted for it, the figures just do not add up!
  • chrisbur
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    AP007 wrote: »
    This is not an extra payment though is it. its the correction?


    The guide does not refer to extra payments or to corrections just to standard payments which it describes as






    "For the purposes of this guidance, ‘standard’ payments
    mean such items as the final payment of salary or wages,
    holiday pay, week in hand payments, bonuses, arrears
    of pay and so on. It does not mean additional one-off
    payments such as retirement, redundancy, lump sums and
    so on"


  • chrisbur
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    whitts wrote: »
    Thank you for you reply, i really have no confidence on how they have accounted for it, the figures just do not add up!


    If it is the tax/NI that you want checking you can PM me the figures and will have a look at them tomorrow.
  • agrinnall
    agrinnall Posts: 23,344 Forumite
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    I think that if they've already issued a P45 then any payment made after that date will be taxed in full at 20%, disregarding any personal allowance that should have been applied. That would make you tax figure higher than normal, but your NI should be the same. I think you'd need to speak to HMRC to get this resolved.

    But Chris will look at your figures and hopefully be able to confirm to you exactly what the problem is and how to sort it out.
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