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House Gifted 15 Years Ago Capital Gains?

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Hello


My mother gifted her house to myself and my brother 15 years ago and we want to sell it now, my brother has been living there but I have had another house and only lived there for a year


1. How can I make use of any allowances if any
2. what's the best way to get a valuation for the house back in 1998
3. what's the best way to minimise my tax bill


Any advice appreciated
thank you
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  • xylophone
    xylophone Posts: 45,609 Forumite
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    http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/cgt/property/basics.htm
    Have you read through the above?
  • Nobber_2
    Nobber_2 Posts: 19 Forumite
    Hello thanks for the reply, yes I have but I can't see anything about how the valuation of the property can be calculated (back in 1998) and what might be acceptable to the tax office
  • pjcox2005
    pjcox2005 Posts: 1,018 Forumite
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    I've assumed it's owned 50:50 and this is very high level advice.

    Your brother is likely to qualify for Principal private residence so no tax liability.

    If it was your only place when you lived there then you may also get PPR relief for that year and the final 36 months of ownership. Impact would be that 4/15 of the gain are not taxable. Search PPR and run through the relief to check you qualify.

    Personal annual allowance of c.£11k could also be used. Potential to use your wifes allowance as well should you have one.

    Practical perspective perhaps your brother will consider spliting the liability as he had the benefit of living there.

    For the capital gain calculation you will use market value at the time of gift as your base cost. Land registery for sale prices (assuming they go back that far) on the street may help get a ballpark but for comfort I'd suggest you get a valuation done as valuers should be able to provide an estimate at that time.
  • antrobus
    antrobus Posts: 17,386 Forumite
    Nobber wrote: »
    Hello thanks for the reply, yes I have but I can't see anything about how the valuation of the property can be calculated (back in 1998) and what might be acceptable to the tax office

    The Land Registry House Price Index goes back to 1995. You can use that to back calculate a 1998 value based on a current valuation/sale price.

    http://www.landregistry.gov.uk/public/house-prices-and-sales
  • Nobber_2
    Nobber_2 Posts: 19 Forumite
    Thank you both for the replies and good advice
  • System
    System Posts: 178,348 Community Admin
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    Was it gifted outright, or in trust giving either beneficiary the right to live there?
    This is a system account and does not represent a real person. To contact the Forum Team email forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com
  • pjcox2005 wrote: »
    I've assumed it's owned 50:50 and this is very high level advice.

    Your brother is likely to qualify for Principal private residence so no tax liability.


    Personal annual allowance of c.£11k could also be used. Potential to use your wifes allowance as well should you have one.

    .

    I think that this could cause big problems.

    If the end result is 1/3, 1/3, 1/3 ownership , the PPR relief would be reduced for the brother.

    The other option would be a ratio of 50% (brother), 25% (op), 25% (op wife).

    In either HMRC may well attack the transfer to the op's wife as an exercise simply to avoid CGT, an issue addressed many times on these forums.
  • Nobber_2
    Nobber_2 Posts: 19 Forumite
    Hello It was gifted outright 50:50 to myself and brother
  • margaretclare
    margaretclare Posts: 10,789 Forumite
    So where does your mum live now?
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  • Nobber wrote: »
    Hello It was gifted outright 50:50 to myself and brother

    Yes but the suggestion has been made that you use your spouse's annual exemption which can only be done by adding the name to the property.
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