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Solar PV quote from Hanergy at IKEA

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  • pw22
    pw22 Posts: 87 Forumite
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    Hi Organum,

    Solar PV can be a good investment providing you get the right system for your property at the right price.

    As per many industries. there are good and not so good companies and installers out there and that is why getting advice on forums like this is invaluable for a lot of people considering solar.
  • EricMears
    EricMears Posts: 3,305 Forumite
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    organum wrote: »
    The whole business of solar seems so dodgy.
    I'm sure the great majority of solar installers are completely honest. The problem is that a few are not and they're the ones trying the hardest to sign up unsuspecting householders. The situation is exactly the same as in the double glazing world thirty years ago (and still occasionally happening there) or any other 'new technology' field where the cowboys can be confident of finding a mug quite easily.

    As ever, don't buy from unsolicited callers but ask your trusted friends for their recommendations.
    NE Derbyshire.4kWp S Facing 17.5deg slope (dormer roof).24kWh of Pylontech batteries with Lux controller BEV : Hyundai Ioniq5
  • organum
    organum Posts: 32 Forumite
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    Yes of course buy from a reputable company but how do you know?

    If IKEA are in bed with what looks like a dodgy company then there is no help for any of us. IKEA has such a great reputation and with good green credentials.

    Yes the forum is essential but the risks seem huge.

    I addition where are the real world figures about actual returns on specific installations?
  • ed110220
    ed110220 Posts: 1,595 Forumite
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    organum wrote: »
    Yes of course buy from a reputable company but how do you know?

    If IKEA are in bed with what looks like a dodgy company then there is no help for any of us. IKEA has such a great reputation and with good green credentials.

    Yes the forum is essential but the risks seem huge.

    I addition where are the real world figures about actual returns on specific installations?

    I wouldn't say Hanergy are dodgy, I just don't think they are well suited to the average UK domestic roof... If you had a lot of space they might be well suited.

    Ed
    Solar install June 2022, Bath
    4.8 kW array, Growatt SPH5000 inverter, 1x Seplos Mason 280L V3 battery 15.2 kWh.
    SSW roof. ~22° pitch, BISF house. 12 x 400W Hyundai panels
  • Martyn1981
    Martyn1981 Posts: 15,374 Forumite
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    organum wrote: »
    I addition where are the real world figures about actual returns on specific installations?

    What would you like to know? Can't see any problem getting real world info.

    For the most basic start, simply use PVGIS to find out what would be generated at a given location, then calculate returns using current FiT, export and leccy savings. Try the PV FAQs (sections 1 & 5) as a starting point.

    Mart.
    Mart. Cardiff. 8.72 kWp PV systems (2.12 SSW 4.6 ESE & 2.0 WNW). 20kWh battery storage. Two A2A units for cleaner heating. Two BEV's for cleaner driving.

    For general PV advice please see the PV FAQ thread on the Green & Ethical Board.
  • razor344
    razor344 Posts: 17 Forumite
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    thing is the ikea panels are only 120watt

    ????

    so is it not better fitting higher wattage panels such as 250watt ??

    i was looking at the ikea panels but have been recomended TP solar and they are doing a deal for a 4kw system for under 5k

    im no expert but worth a look

    regards
    marc
  • razor344 wrote: »
    thing is the ikea panels are only 120watt

    ????

    so is it not better fitting higher wattage panels such as 250watt ??

    i was looking at the ikea panels but have been recomended TP solar and they are doing a deal for a 4kw system for under 5k

    im no expert but worth a look

    regards
    marc

    A friend of mine has just had a Hanergy system fitted by IKEA. Said they were brilliant and the team in store helped him through the whole process - even filling out the FiT forms after his installation!

    After having a look at the panels I noticed they were much smaller than mono - poly crystalline panels and After going to see the solar panel in the store I can confirm they are almost half the size. Only 1.2m x 0.8m with other panels going up to 1.2m x 1.5m so nearly twice as big. So it wouldn't actually take up twice the roof space just a bit more surely...

    From what I can gather the IKEA panels are also much better at generating in cloudy conditions so would be better for the UK maybe?even if they arent as efficient in direct sunlight? (we dont get direct sunlight that much!?)

    I have also heard that IKEA have used Hanergy for installations of their own! If IKEA back them they must be a good installer... I certainly feel safer going with them anyway because IKEA would be risking its reputation if they aren't pretty decent and my friend has had a good experience.

    James
  • Fred_Bear_2
    Fred_Bear_2 Posts: 392 Forumite
    James2 wrote: »
    A friend of mine has just had a Hanergy system fitted by IKEA....
    After having a look at the panels I noticed they were much smaller than mono - poly crystalline panels and After going to see the solar panel in the store I can confirm they are almost half the size. Only 1.2m x 0.8m with other panels going up to 1.2m x 1.5m so nearly twice as big. So it wouldn't actually take up twice the roof space just a bit more surely....

    From what I can gather the IKEA panels are also much better at generating in cloudy conditions so would be better for the UK maybe?even if they arent as efficient in direct sunlight? (we dont get direct sunlight that much!?)

    The panels generate 125W per square meter while the Panasonic panels I was considering are rated at 190W and Sunpower goes up to 200W. This is a considerable difference if you have limited space.

    I was interested in the claim about generation in cloudy conditions, but Hanergy would not give me any details and I have been unable to find any data. For this reason I doubt if there is any worthwhile difference.
  • Martyn1981
    Martyn1981 Posts: 15,374 Forumite
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    James2 wrote: »
    (we dont get direct sunlight that much!?)

    Don't we?

    Mart.
    Mart. Cardiff. 8.72 kWp PV systems (2.12 SSW 4.6 ESE & 2.0 WNW). 20kWh battery storage. Two A2A units for cleaner heating. Two BEV's for cleaner driving.

    For general PV advice please see the PV FAQ thread on the Green & Ethical Board.
  • theboylard
    theboylard Posts: 1,211 Forumite
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    James2 wrote: »
    A friend of mine has just had a Hanergy system fitted by IKEA. Said they were brilliant and the team in store helped him through the whole process - even filling out the FiT forms after his installation!

    After having a look at the panels I noticed they were much smaller than mono - poly crystalline panels and After going to see the solar panel in the store I can confirm they are almost half the size. Only 1.2m x 0.8m with other panels going up to 1.2m x 1.5m so nearly twice as big. So it wouldn't actually take up twice the roof space just a bit more surely...

    From what I can gather the IKEA panels are also much better at generating in cloudy conditions so would be better for the UK maybe?even if they arent as efficient in direct sunlight? (we dont get direct sunlight that much!?)

    I have also heard that IKEA have used Hanergy for installations of their own! If IKEA back them they must be a good installer... I certainly feel safer going with them anyway because IKEA would be risking its reputation if they aren't pretty decent and my friend has had a good experience.

    James

    Can you ask your friend for his total cost, expected annual generation, expected annual electricity savings, expected FiT returns please?

    It world be nice to see what figures Hanergy are giving out and will allow you to compare with other installers?

    Thanks
    4kWp, SSE, SolarEdge P300 optimisers & SE3500 Inverter, in occasionally sunny Corby, Northants.
    Now with added Sunsynk 5kw hybrid ecco inverter & 15kWh Fogstar batteries. Oh Octopus Energy too.
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