We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.

This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.

📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!
The Forum now has a brand new text editor, adding a bunch of handy features to use when creating posts. Read more in our how-to guide

Buying a new home and keeping existing flat to rent

We are a couple who are looking to buy a new property but keep our existing two bedroom flat. I own our existing flat on my own although it is very close to being in negative equity so there is little value in selling it. The property does also have good rental value which does offset the cost of the mortgage.

Our joint incomes would also allow us to buy the 2nd home although I am unsure what the building society line is. Would the property have to be rented out before they would offer us a mortgage.

As the above may suggest we are a little clueless as to how to proceed. Any help, advice would be most welcome.
«1

Comments

  • Cornucopia
    Cornucopia Posts: 16,702 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    Sounds okay. You'd need to get the actual costs from the BS of the mortgage after they have given Consent to Let (you need their permission).

    Once you have those figures, get a couple of rental estimates from local letting agents, and you'll know what kind of profit you'll be making. You need to be in profit (not merely break-even) because there are periodic costs, possible periods when the property will be empty, and the possibility of mortgage rate rises.

    You should be able to apply for the new mortgage at the same time as converting the old one to letting, and co-ordinate the dates and funds accordingly.
  • GMS
    GMS Posts: 5,388 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    What percentage deposit do you have for the new purchase?

    Many lenders restrict second property purchases.
    I am a Mortgage Adviser
    You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a mortgage adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice.
  • grd10
    grd10 Posts: 7 Forumite
    Seventh Anniversary Combo Breaker
    We have 10% deposit and have seen a house we really like. We also have enough for stamp duty etc but not much after that. I read on one message board that the building society would also want to see we had savings to cover 6 months without rent in the old flat. Is that true? we could probably borrow that off parents but thi move will leave us cash poor in short term.
  • dimbo61
    dimbo61 Posts: 13,727 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    " I own our existing flat on my own "
    No you do not own your current flat ! You have a mortgage which is more than the property is worth or at best break even if you sell.
    Now you need "Consent to let" from your existing lender if the figures add up.
    The Lender will want to see that the flat will rent for 125% of the mortgage costs IE Rent £500 a month mortgage £400 a month.
    Consent to let usually has a time limit as well which is something you need to check with your lender.
    The Lender may say NO we will not give consent to let at all so then you have to sell.
    You need a deposit for the next property so 10/15% or more
  • grd10
    grd10 Posts: 7 Forumite
    Seventh Anniversary Combo Breaker
    a slightly aggressive sounding reply. The flat would just about break even if we sold but I take your point. I think I was clear in my post I understood that I did indeed have a mortgage, apologies if this was not the case.

    The only issue I think is the 125% coverage from the rent. I suspect rental vlaue would be close on that front! probably a little under.

    We do have a combined salary of 110,000 and probably looking to borrow around 280,000. What you reckon?
  • getmore4less
    getmore4less Posts: 46,882 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper I've helped Parliament
    Should be saving shedloads of money so wont take long to make the numbers look better

    How big is the current mortgage? What is the rental potential.
  • grd10
    grd10 Posts: 7 Forumite
    Seventh Anniversary Combo Breaker
    current mortgage is 155K
    repayments of 850pcm

    rental potential is 1050pcm

    although i think then theres agency fees of 10-13%

    Saving not a problem, the issue is we've seen somewhere we like and not sure if we can go for it now!

    New property is 310,000 we have about 31k deposit but not much after that.
  • Dave_Ham
    Dave_Ham Posts: 6,045 Forumite
    Tenth Anniversary Combo Breaker
    Get yourself a broker and other things being equal, this should be achievable.

    Rates may not be super attractive, but you do have a limited supply of lenders in this marketplace.

    Who is your current mortgage lender?
    I am a Mortgage Broker
    You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a Mortgage Broker, so you need to take my word for it.
    This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser code of conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice.
  • grd10
    grd10 Posts: 7 Forumite
    Seventh Anniversary Combo Breaker
    Nationwide
  • Dave_Ham
    Dave_Ham Posts: 6,045 Forumite
    Tenth Anniversary Combo Breaker
    They are usually ok on a consent to let basis, but unlikely to hold a solution on the new purchase.

    A decent broker will sort this quickly, although do beware on any Estate Agent broker specifically the ones you may buy through.

    Best of luck
    I am a Mortgage Broker
    You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a Mortgage Broker, so you need to take my word for it.
    This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser code of conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice.
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 354.6K Banking & Borrowing
  • 254.4K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 455.5K Spending & Discounts
  • 247.4K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 604.3K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 178.5K Life & Family
  • 261.8K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.1K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.7K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.