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Csa rant

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I am soo frustrated with the CSA. its like they want me to do their job for them. im a single mum to a beautiful little girl who has NEVER met her farther(his choice) and he has never paid a penny for her (shes coming up to 2 1/2). I opened a CSA claim july 2012 because I realised I was getting nowhere trying to squeeze pennies from him. they took all my details etc and said they would get back to me. well we are now at the end of September 2013 and the only times I have had contact with the CSA is by me phoneing them on a stupid 0845 number that costs a fortune. and I still have not received a penny from him. there reason for this is because he will jump from job to benefits and back again as soon as the CSA catch up with him. they rude women I had on the phone last week turnt around to me and said well if i was going to complain about how long its taken why don't i organise it between myself and him for payment. i couldn't believe it. if they cant get money out of him im obviously not going to be able to. and if i could wy would i sit there on an 0845 number trying to get them to catch up with him. why cant they take him to court and force him to pay for my daughter. he now has 2 children(including my daughter) and doesn't see or pay for either they were imacluate (not sure on spelling) conception according to him. UGGHHH why is he being let to get away with this!! and how come if hes on benefits they can only take away £5 a week when he spends more then that getting a 4 hour train jorney to see his lastest thing. isn't our children more important!!!

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  • DUTR
    DUTR Posts: 12,958 Forumite
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    I am soo frustrated with the CSA. its like they want me to do their job for them. im a single mum to a beautiful little girl who has NEVER met her farther(his choice) and he has never paid a penny for her (shes coming up to 2 1/2). I opened a CSA claim july 2012 because I realised I was getting nowhere trying to squeeze pennies from him. they took all my details etc and said they would get back to me. well we are now at the end of September 2013 and the only times I have had contact with the CSA is by me phoneing them on a stupid 0845 number that costs a fortune. and I still have not received a penny from him. there reason for this is because he will jump from job to benefits and back again as soon as the CSA catch up with him. they rude women I had on the phone last week turnt around to me and said well if i was going to complain about how long its taken why don't i organise it between myself and him for payment. i couldn't believe it. if they cant get money out of him im obviously not going to be able to. and if i could wy would i sit there on an 0845 number trying to get them to catch up with him. why cant they take him to court and force him to pay for my daughter. he now has 2 children(including my daughter) and doesn't see or pay for either they were imacluate (not sure on spelling) conception according to him. UGGHHH why is he being let to get away with this!! and how come if hes on benefits they can only take away £5 a week when he spends more then that getting a 4 hour train jorney to see his lastest thing. isn't our children more important!!!

    To you they are, but not to him, getting a final conclusion on a CSA case can take a long time, indeed there are sanctions that can be taken, but the harsh reality is, is that if someone isn't going to be forthcoming, then they won't be irrespective of the threats levied on them.
    If your childs Father is job hopping, then chances are they are not great paid jobs and at best you will get 15% net (more likely less than 10% net) so all the fighting you are doing is probably worth £20 week ? Every little helps I know. PS 0845 are charged at local rate from a landline.

    Now for the mindset, as a NRP I don't mind contributing, the terms pay for a child is not ideal and leads to a battle of the ex's.
    Good luck with your case though it will and can take time, mine was smooth and it still took several months.
  • My child was 15 years old before we got any maintenance for her & even then only when it was attachment of earnings. He kept moving around & lodged with friends so no one knew where he was living, but he stayed in the same job so l don't how he got away with it. Hell he didn't even tell his mother he had another daughter until she was 15.
  • McKneff
    McKneff Posts: 38,857 Forumite
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    As for the 'stupid' 0845 number, have a look at Saynoto0870 and look for a generic number.
    make the most of it, we are only here for the weekend.
    and we will never, ever return.
  • Or ask for a callback once you've been through security and are speaking to a caseworker. It's something I did all the time when I worked on the frontlines there.

    The amount taken from his benefit is set at £5 due to Government legislation. This will increase to £7 a week in November.
  • Phone in and just say youd like to be called back due to the financial cost. We have to do this.

    As for your rant, i can understand the fustration but its the father of your child you need to be ranting about, you said yourself hes job hopping and going on benefits every time we catch up to him, we dont force him to do that.
  • FBaby
    FBaby Posts: 18,374 Forumite
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    You need to reconsider the role of the csa. They are not there to fight your rights, they are not there to make a completely irresponsible father become one. They are there to TRY to help in a matter where two adults can't act as such for the benefit of their own child.

    The reality is that indeed, they can't do miracles and if he is between jobs all the time, then it is next to impossible to identify what he should pay. My ex is the same, in between jobs all the time, half of them on a self-employment basis, so probably not even declared. I have never approached the csa because I know they won't be able to either make him take financial responsibility for his children, nor impose a regular payment for non-regular work.

    In the end, only you know the circumstances of your relation with your ex. Not all fathers pay for their children, that's how it is. You and I are just unlucky, but no point in blaming the agency for that fact.
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