'Married couple £1000 tax break' being reported before 2015

zagfles

Tigsteroonie wrote: »

Well, if it's intended as a bribe, it's not going to work for me - it's not big enough.

At the moment I fall into two tax categories:

• Single for the purpose of tax allowance
• Part of a couple for the purpose of tax credits

In the future I could add:

• Married for the purpose of transferring 1/10 of my tax allowance

Is it any wonder the country is in a mess? We can't even decide people's status.

Forget this. Make sharing tax allowances optional - but tie it to credits/benefits so that you can't be a couple for one and single for another. Don't penalise those who don't marry (why aren't civil partnerships available to all?) And merge CB into CTC.

^^That's the basis of my manifesto - who wants to vote for me?!!!!

I will. Though you won't get in, most people are too stupid to understand how hypocritical it is to treat people as couples/families for benefits but as single people for income tax.

The govt like it because it maximises tax revenues while minimising benefits, then they can lower tax rates and convince those stupid people that they are taxed less than other countries with higher tax rates.

jacques_chirac

zagfles wrote: »

Single people don't have to live alone. If people want the luxury of their own property, cooker, fridge etc, then why should they be subsidised, especially when property is in short supply.

I'd abolish the 25% council tax discount - why should someone who doesn't want to share not pay the full tax? If they have their own car they'd pay 100% of the road tax and fuel tax, if they bought a bottle of wine and didn't share it they'd pay 100% of the excise duty. Why should they get a discount for not sharing a property?

On that basis couples should also share with other people, yes? Or are they allowed to choose who they live with?

Lets all live in a commune! :rotfl:

zagfles

jacques_chirac wrote: »

On that basis couples should also share with other people, yes? Or are they allowed to choose who they live with?

Lets all live in a commune! :rotfl:

They can do what they want - the point was they shouldn't be subsidised not to share. Couples don't whinge because they pay the same council tax as 2 couples sharing :rotfl:

Some single people even whinge they only get 25% CT discount! What next - do they want a discount on their car tax because they don't share it :rotfl:

Gas_Powered_Toothbrush

zagfles wrote: »

Single people don't have to live alone. If people want the luxury of their own property, cooker, fridge etc, then why should they be subsidised, especially when property is in short supply.

I'd abolish the 25% council tax discount - why should someone who doesn't want to share not pay the full tax? If they have their own car they'd pay 100% of the road tax and fuel tax, if they bought a bottle of wine and didn't share it they'd pay 100% of the excise duty. Why should they get a discount for not sharing a property?

Council tax pays for council services (and in Scotland, the water and sewerage charges).
A single person will use less of these services than two people.
A single person is therefore charged less than two people.

Did you not understand how this works, or were you deliberately misrepresenting the facts?

Old_Git

I dont think any couple will get married just for a tax break

brewerdave

Gas_Powered_Toothbrush wrote: »

Council tax pays for council services (and in Scotland, the water and sewerage charges).
A single person will use less of these services than two people.
A single person is therefore charged less than two people.

Did you not understand how this works, or were you deliberately misrepresenting the facts?

OFF TOPIC BUT ......which is why Maggie Thatcher's (much hated) poll tax was fairer - single people weren't subsidising large adult families!!!:)

CLAPTON

Gas_Powered_Toothbrush wrote: »

Council tax pays for council services (and in Scotland, the water and sewerage charges).
A single person will use less of these services than two people.
A single person is therefore charged less than two people.

Did you not understand how this works, or were you deliberately misrepresenting the facts?

There is no reason why some-one living in a large house will use more council services that the same person living in a small house, yet they pay more council tax.
Do you think that every one should pay the same i.e. a poll tax?

Andy_L

zagfles wrote: »

They can do what they want - the point was they shouldn't be subsidised not to share. Couples don't whinge because they pay the same council tax as 2 couples sharing :rotfl:

Some single people even whinge they only get 25% CT discount! What next - do they want a discount on their car tax because they don't share it :rotfl:

but a couple are paying 50% each, a singlie is paying 75%

zagfles

Gas_Powered_Toothbrush wrote: »

Council tax pays for council services (and in Scotland, the water and sewerage charges).
A single person will use less of these services than two people.
A single person is therefore charged less than two people.

Did you not understand how this works, or were you deliberately misrepresenting the facts?

Do you really not understand the difference between a tax and a direct charge for services? Does a person living in a band E house use far more council services than a person in a band B house? If not why does the person in the band E house pay more council tax?

Because it's a tax, and like all taxes, the amount you pay is not based on the services you consume, but on the thing being taxed. In the case of council tax, the property. Just like car tax is based on your car type, not the amount you use the roads, and income tax is based on income not on how much you use hospitals etc.

Would you prefer the poll tax, where people were taxed, not property?

zagfles

Andy_L wrote: »

but a couple are paying 50% each, a singlie is paying 75%

Another whoosh....;)