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calculating holiday with irregular hours

i do some shifts of 4 hours, some of 9.5 some of 10.5. work different days different weeks

it works out to 160 hours each 4 weeks. so it averages out to 40 hours per week

how many days holiday should i get ?

is it just a matter of multiplying 40 with 5.6

this gives 224 hours

the problem then is that 224/9.5 gives 23.57 9.5 hour shifts off

but 224/10.5 gives 21.3 10.5 hour shifts off

if we round up then there is 2 days difference

this does not seem to compare favorably with someone who works a 5 day week and gets 28 days off

i know my days are longer - but i will gets less days off

should i get 28 days of regardless of whether its a 9.5 or 10.5 or 4 hour shift

thanks
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  • tir21 wrote: »
    i do some shifts of 4 hours, some of 9.5 some of 10.5. work different days different weeks

    it works out to 160 hours each 4 weeks. so it averages out to 40 hours per week

    how many days holiday should i get ?

    is it just a matter of multiplying 40 with 5.6

    this gives 224 hours

    the problem then is that 224/9.5 gives 23.57 9.5 hour shifts off

    but 224/10.5 gives 21.3 10.5 hour shifts off

    if we round up then there is 2 days difference

    this does not seem to compare favorably with someone who works a 5 day week and gets 28 days off

    i know my days are longer - but i will gets less days off

    should i get 28 days of regardless of whether its a 9.5 or 10.5 or 4 hour shift

    thanks

    No you shouldn't. Presumably you do fewer 10.5 hour shifts.
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  • elsien
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    Your shift length shouldn't matter if you are contracted to a set number of hours a week or month.
    How many days holiday does your contract say?
    Our shifts vary from 2 hours to 10, but for example if we say a full time worker is an 8 hour day (40 hour week) then a part time worker gets the same number of days but the hours are pro rata. So an annual leave day for a full time worker counts as 8 hours, but a 20 hour worker would use 4 hours to get a day off, their 20 hours being assumed to be a 5x4hour week even though the shifts themselves vary.
    As you are full time, your leave in my organisation) would be 28 days or 224 hours.
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  • tir21
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    i do
    8 - 4 hour shifts
    9 - 9.5 hour shifts
    4 - 10.5 hour shifts
  • tir21
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    elsien
    As you are full time, your leave in my organisation) would be 28 days or 224 hours.

    but 28 10.5 hour days would be 294 hours - not 224
  • elsien
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    edited 16 September 2013 at 5:45PM
    Doesn't matter as it's averaged out. If you have a week off you use 40 hours. Regardless of what shifts you'd actually have been doing that week. You don't do all 10.5 hour shifts so why should all your holiday days be 10.5 hours?
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  • HappyMJ
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    tir21 wrote: »
    i do
    8 - 4 hour shifts
    9 - 9.5 hour shifts
    4 - 10.5 hour shifts
    Probably best to figure it out in hours then rather than days.

    Your employer could use a percentage of hours worked to get your annual leave calculation. The percentage used is 12.07%. You work 160 hours every 4 weeks so get 19.31 hours every 4 weeks. Over 46.4 weeks of a year you should get 224 hours of annual leave which is 28 days (5.6 weeks).
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  • tir21
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    if someone works 5 four hour days a week - does this mean they would only get 14 days off a year?
  • tir21
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    elsien wrote: »
    Doesn't matter as it's averaged out. If you have a week off you use 40 hours. Regardless of what shifts you'd actually have been doing that week. You don't do all 10.5 hour shifts so why should all your holiday days be 10.5 hours?

    i very seldom have a week off though

    i tend to have days here and there
  • elsien
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    No they'd get 28 days or 112 hours.
    All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well.

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  • tir21
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    HappyMJ wrote: »
    Probably best to figure it out in hours then rather than days.

    Your employer could use a percentage of hours worked to get your annual leave calculation. The percentage used is 12.07%. You work 160 hours every 4 weeks so get 19.31 hours every 4 weeks. Over 46.4 weeks of a year you should get 224 hours of annual leave which is 28 days (5.6 weeks).

    thanks but this would obviously mean a big difference between having 28 4 hour days off rather than 28 10.5 hour days off
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