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Desperate graduates forced to dance like monkeys for work
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Depends what you mean by leadership, of course.
Someone comes along, bullies their way through, puts themselves in charge from the off, won't take on board other ideas, just tells everyone what to do etc. Even if their team wins the task they will likely fail the interview and then tell all their friends 'Oh they just want the canon fodder rather than the real leaders like me.'
Who actually comes up with the best dance, or makes the most money out the task is irrelevant in these exercises. They're only interested in observing how people work with each other.
Exactly, but that's why failing all leaders in an exercise where people are asked to show leadership is wrong. Not all who 'win' will have bullied there way through. The first time I heard of this, I had exactly the same reaction, as it was someone I am pretty sure it was some one who would have shown bluster (still thought is was flawed design but thought it probably did show him in a true light) but have since heard repeats of the same exercise by the same hr team from others, including those who 'fail' and how they are surprised to have passed afterwards in interview.
I absolutely see that the 'exercise' is not the point, the interaction is, but personally, I don't much like the idea of being asked to do x, doing x to the best of my ability and then being told actually we wanted y, and as you did x you can't possibly do y.....0 -
Curry's need really thick skinned people - this chap sounds far too sensitive.
When they've been told 5 times that you don't want antivirus or office software they've got to be willing to ask one more time. They've also got to be able to cry at will as they contemplate the horrors of taking home an appliance without the security of an extended warranty.
Just come off a complaint call to virgin media. The operative wasn't interested in my complaint only trying to sell me a package upgrade.I don't think he got the message until at least 5 x no either
Most online appliance seller these days all appear to route through one distributor. they ring up to double check the order and then morph into the insurance hard sell. they go to great lengths to explain it isn't insurance but a service. Is service miss selling the next issue?
they obviously make money out of it but I pity the guys that have to plug the stuff for NMW with OTE of a possibleY or the chance of being fired by an equally useless sales coach
All helps GDP."If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0 -
I blame that profession called HR.
Come the revolution, the first thing we shall do is kill all the HR professionals.
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Then it became "human capital management" (...
Or human capital management professionals for that matter. You can run but you can't hide.
Marketing is next.0 -
ruggedtoast wrote: »Oh, they most certainly are. ...
No, they are not. Look up the word 'rentier' in a dictionary.:)0 -
Curry's need really thick skinned people - this chap sounds far too sensitive.
When they've been told 5 times that you don't want antivirus or office software they've got to be willing to ask one more time. They've also got to be able to cry at will as they contemplate the horrors of taking home an appliance without the security of an extended warranty.
I see you are an amateur when it comes to professional shopping.
The correct thing to do is to take the extended warranty but only if they discount the product by at least 50% of the price of the warranty (on top of any discount already negotiated) and then cancel it (it is insurance, you get a 14 day cooling off period) as soon as you get home but retain the extra discount.on the product you actually wanted I think....0 -
I see you are an amateur when it comes to professional shopping.
The correct thing to do is to take the extended warranty but only if they discount the product by at least 50% of the price of the warranty (on top of any discount already negotiated) and then cancel it (it is insurance, you get a 14 day cooling off period) as soon as you get home but retain the extra discount.on the product you actually wanted
Good thinking.
In my 'yoof' in my career, probably nearly 30 years ago, I had something to do with warranty insurance. Most of that time, general insurance worked on something like 75% claims ratio, and 20%/25% for commisssion/profit if lucky...
Warranty insurance, however, was 60%/65% of the premium for retailer, plus 20%/25% for broker, leaving about 15% to pay for claims and insurer profit. One of the biggest rip-offs there is.
I have a way about me. Don't know what it is. But I've never been asked twice, or 'pushed' in any way. I buy the stuff, and say 'no' to extended warranty even before they've finished the question. They never ask me again. Must be the 'f* off face' I put on. Same with children. One look from me at a noisy, snotty little 3-year old has it running away. My wife is proud.
Works every time. Except for Jehova's Witnesses....0 -
Loughton_Monkey wrote: »Works every time. Except for Jehova's Witnesses....
I've found the solution for them is to answer the door holding a half empty bottle of single malt while wearing nothing but a sporran.
A tad embarrassing if it turns out to be the postman though.
“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”0 -
The bloke in the original OP was misguided anyway. He thought that having an interest in cameras made him suitable for the job.
He would do better having an interest in over priced post-sales guarantees.
A friend of mine once get rejected for a job at the Apple store because he was 'too enthusiastic about the product' ...0 -
Loughton_Monkey wrote: »
Works every time. Except for Jehova's Witnesses....
I remember once a couple knocked at my front door, I was a bit too keen to get rid of them (assuming they were religious nutters) and said 'Sorry I'm not interested' to which they replied 'But we haven't even told you why we are here yet'.Chuck Norris can kill two stones with one birdThe only time Chuck Norris was wrong was when he thought he had made a mistakeChuck Norris puts the "laughter" in "manslaughter".I've started running again, after several injuries had forced me to stop0 -
chucknorris wrote: »I remember once a couple knocked at my front door, I was a bit too keen to get rid of them (assuming they were religious nutters) and said 'Sorry I'm not interested' to which they replied 'But we haven't even told you why we are here yet'.
I once had a friend who was rather perverse and enjoyed nothing better than winding them up. He would invite them in but spend hours arguing over things like "Where did Noar get the Polar Bears from to go into the ark in those days..." or "Well if he did get them, then how did he stop them eating the penguins..."0
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