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Trying to work out if Offset is more suitable than Tracker
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Hi guys..
I'm trying to work out if an Offset mortgage is better for me at the moment rather than the tracker I am currently on, I understand the principles behind offsets but am a bit confused by the calculator on the main site
It lays out current deal v's offset and you input your figures for mortgage and savings. On the results there is an interest cost showing, presumably the higher that is then I'm better off doing the opposite?
On my actual figures, over the remaining term of 17 years it shows approx a £400 diff between the two. But it also shows that I pay off on an offset 2 years early. On shorter term it shows tracker winning on interest costs.
Anyway, I'm still confused, would anyone mind helping please and hopefully explain Offsets in simple terms
I'm trying to work out if an Offset mortgage is better for me at the moment rather than the tracker I am currently on, I understand the principles behind offsets but am a bit confused by the calculator on the main site
It lays out current deal v's offset and you input your figures for mortgage and savings. On the results there is an interest cost showing, presumably the higher that is then I'm better off doing the opposite?
On my actual figures, over the remaining term of 17 years it shows approx a £400 diff between the two. But it also shows that I pay off on an offset 2 years early. On shorter term it shows tracker winning on interest costs.
Anyway, I'm still confused, would anyone mind helping please and hopefully explain Offsets in simple terms
Mortgage Free Wannabe Light Bulb Moment (Early 2012, started May 2012)
Original Mortgage Amount - £147k (Oct 2005) / Term 27 years (To 2032)
Target to Pay off by 2026 by overpaying - Officially Mortgage Free June 2023!
Balance Reduction Progress: May12 £128k / Nov13 £120k / Dec15 £107k / Mar18 £87k / Mar21 £46k / Jun22 £28k / Jun23 £0!!
Original Mortgage Amount - £147k (Oct 2005) / Term 27 years (To 2032)
Target to Pay off by 2026 by overpaying - Officially Mortgage Free June 2023!
Balance Reduction Progress: May12 £128k / Nov13 £120k / Dec15 £107k / Mar18 £87k / Mar21 £46k / Jun22 £28k / Jun23 £0!!
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Offset is just like overpaying but you can withdraw your overpayments without having to resort to more expensive credit such as a personal loan or a credit card.
It saves money but it doesn't save much...so buy the mortgage based on the interest rate as you will save much more that way.
If you are planning a large purchase such as a car then don't overpay and save the money instead.
By what you have written I'd go for the tracker and overpay whenever you have excess cash that you know you will never need. The savings you hold should be kept in high interest savings accounts (currently paying 3%). If your partner has no income then they can earn the interest tax free which is one of the attractions of the offset mortgage.
There aren't any simple terms...the simplest I can think of is just look at the standard variable rate of the loan and base your decision on that.
Personally, I love offset mortgages but I would never recommend one to any of my friends.:footie:
Regular savers earn 6% interest (HSBC, First Direct, M&S)
Loans cost 2.9% per year (Nationwide) = FREE money.
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Thanks for the feedback MJ, my tracker is on 2.79% at the moment and the offset I see with FD is 3.69%. My savings are in a 2.75% account and that is for the next 9months or so. I'll keep plodding along and overpaying!Mortgage Free Wannabe Light Bulb Moment (Early 2012, started May 2012)
Original Mortgage Amount - £147k (Oct 2005) / Term 27 years (To 2032)
Target to Pay off by 2026 by overpaying - Officially Mortgage Free June 2023!
Balance Reduction Progress: May12 £128k / Nov13 £120k / Dec15 £107k / Mar18 £87k / Mar21 £46k / Jun22 £28k / Jun23 £0!!0 -
In simple terms £100K on your current product costs you £2,790 per year.
On the offset product £100K will cost you £3,690.
Therefore you need to save at least £900 a year in interest or you are out of pocket.
To save that you will need to have an average £24,390 in your offset cash account.
In this case -if your average cash on deposit is not at least 25% of your mortgage size this offset product will cost you money.I am a Mortgage Broker
You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a Mortgage Broker, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice.0 -
In simple terms £100K on your current product costs you £2,790 per year.
On the offset product £100K will cost you £3,690.
Therefore you need to save at least £900 a year in interest or you are out of pocket.
To save that you will need to have an average £24,390 in your offset cash account.
In this case -if your average cash on deposit is not at least 25% of your mortgage size this offset product will cost you money.
Amnblog - Thanks you that is clear now, makes perfect sense too. I'll be sticking where I am I think, seems to only make sense if you have tens of thousands available to offset and / or the offset rate is more competitive...Mortgage Free Wannabe Light Bulb Moment (Early 2012, started May 2012)
Original Mortgage Amount - £147k (Oct 2005) / Term 27 years (To 2032)
Target to Pay off by 2026 by overpaying - Officially Mortgage Free June 2023!
Balance Reduction Progress: May12 £128k / Nov13 £120k / Dec15 £107k / Mar18 £87k / Mar21 £46k / Jun22 £28k / Jun23 £0!!0 -
Amnblog - Thanks you that is clear now, makes perfect sense too. I'll be sticking where I am I think, seems to only make sense if you have tens of thousands available to offset and / or the offset rate is more competitive...
It works well for the self employed, higher rate tax payers, with tens of thousands on deposit.
Otherwise it is a bit of a vanity option in todays market.I am a Mortgage Broker
You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a Mortgage Broker, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice.0
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