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Workless Households - Lowest on Record

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  • Carl31
    Carl31 Posts: 2,616 Forumite
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    Good question!

    Q "How many of these people take home a wage they can live on without benefit top ups etc."
    A "Probably about 99%"


    Q "How many of these people take home a wage they can live the life they would like to lead without benefit top ups etc."
    A "Probably very few."

    I once tried an experiment to see if I could live without a telephone, mobile phone, car, computer, any alcohol in the house, television, holidays, or eating in restaurants.

    All of this was in a one-bedroom rented flat.

    Strangely, I found it to be perfectly possible. Even on a low wage. The thing is, though, I didn't really know it was an 'experiment'. I had just left university and naively thought I was simply... er... 'living'.

    you had a mobile phone just after you left uni?

    i thought you and your wife were of retirement age?
  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
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    Carl31 wrote: »
    you had a mobile phone just after you left uni?

    i thought you and your wife were of retirement age?

    Depends on the point he's making really! Hence, best ignored.
  • Carl31 wrote: »
    you had a mobile phone just after you left uni?

    i thought you and your wife were of retirement age?

    No. I lived without a mobile phone. The fact that they were not invented at the time may have been a contributory factor.

    I actually bought my first mobile phone (at age 45) on 29th October 1994 at a cost of £129.98.
  • atush
    atush Posts: 18,731 Forumite
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    At least something in this world is getting cheaper lol
  • atush wrote: »
    At least something in this world is getting cheaper lol

    True.

    A bit like my insults and sarcasm.....
  • Dunroamin
    Dunroamin Posts: 16,908 Forumite
    Ok, should have said education or training.

    Still doesn't alter the fact that a whole years worth of people have been removed from ever being able to hit the unemployment figures.

    17 and 18 year olds haven't been able to sign on for years (except for a tiny minority) so they haven't been included in the unemployment figures any way.
  • Masomnia
    Masomnia Posts: 19,506 Forumite
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    Dunroamin wrote: »
    17 and 18 year olds haven't been able to sign on for years (except for a tiny minority) so they haven't been included in the unemployment figures any way.

    You can still count as unemployed without signing on, as long as you're not working, actively looking for work, and able to start work in the next four weeks.
    “I could see that, if not actually disgruntled, he was far from being gruntled.” - P.G. Wodehouse
  • antrobus
    antrobus Posts: 17,386 Forumite
    Dunroamin wrote: »
    17 and 18 year olds haven't been able to sign on for years (except for a tiny minority) so they haven't been included in the unemployment figures any way.

    They're not included in claimant count, i.e. those claiming JSA ...
    Masomnia wrote: »
    You can still count as unemployed without signing on, as long as you're not working, actively looking for work, and able to start work in the next four weeks.

    ... but they are included in unemployment as per Labour Market Survey.

    Scroll down to see this nice graph from the BBC
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10604117
  • Ok, should have said education or training.

    Still doesn't alter the fact that a whole years worth of people have been removed from ever being able to hit the unemployment figures.

    Which makes sense as they're not unemployed.
  • Masomnia
    Masomnia Posts: 19,506 Forumite
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    Which makes sense as they're not unemployed.

    AFAIK students can count as unemployed if they're not working but are looking for work.
    “I could see that, if not actually disgruntled, he was far from being gruntled.” - P.G. Wodehouse
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