Should we protest against Luddites?

chewmylegoff

And you can't frack in unpopulated areas as everyone gets offended when you point out parts of their county are unpopulated. Fine then, we'll frack in your back garden instead...

Rotor

I entirely seperate local protest (nimbyism)from outside agitator protest.

Nimbyism is logical dislike of suffering the hugely disproportionate pain locally for the benefit of everybody else nationally. It may be best for the country and the nimbys shouldn't necessarily be heeded, but hypocracy it is not.

Fella

chewmylegoff wrote: »

No doubt the protestors are hoping the frackers give in soon so they can go back to their day job of moaning about their energy bills and railing against power companies' fat cat directors

Reminds me of a radio phone-in on 5 live not long ago. The same people protesting about the banks having to be bailed out by the taxpayer were protesting about the large profits announced by Shell.

Loughton_Monkey

I often wonder what would happen if the frackers offered some sort of "Royalties". Probably even a tiny (say) 0.5% of the value of fracked fuel could amount to £millions, to be divided each year as a dividend to those (say) within a 3 mile radius....

We'd probably get locals demonstrating for the fracking, invaded by tree-huggers swarming in from their Socialist communes, giving us quite a bit of entertainment....

But overall, living in the South, I do agree with Lord Howell that it best takes place up north, where they need the money.

Fella

Loughton_Monkey wrote: »

I often wonder what would happen if the frackers offered some sort of "Royalties". Probably even a tiny (say) 0.5% of the value of fracked fuel could amount to £millions, to be divided each year as a dividend to those (say) within a 3 mile radius....

Answer here: (at the end although worth watching the lot)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amZsdpLXcIo

N1AK

Loughton_Monkey wrote:

But overall, living in the South, I do agree with Lord Howell that it best takes place up north, where they need the money.

It's a fair point and if genuine funding went with it then I think you'd find communities within the area (quite large given the possible risks of fracking) might well support it.

The current proposals of something like £100k for the local community are a joke. If that was larger and attached to a considerable sum for redevelopment, training, services and infrastructure in the region and I'm sure us Northerners would be reasonable

N1AK

Fella wrote: »

Answer here: (at the end although worth watching the lot)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amZsdpLXcIo

Brilliant :beer:

Loughton_Monkey

N1AK wrote: »

.....The current proposals of something like £100k for the local community are a joke. If that was larger and attached to a considerable sum for redevelopment, training, services and infrastructure in the region and I'm sure us Northerners would be reasonable

Plus automatic bottle opener (with instructions)...

.... and free gin & tonics all round ....

pqrdef

Loughton_Monkey wrote: »

But overall, living in the South, I do agree with Lord Howell that it best takes place up north, where they need the money.

Short of declaring UDI, how is the north going to get its hands on the money?

ging84

i don't think you need to protest against the protesters
you can just wait till the end of the school holidays and they will mostly go away