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Will the mortgage guarentee go ahead?

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  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
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    the 'fees' applicable after 5 years have to be paid when incurred and can't be accrued until later.
  • brit1234
    brit1234 Posts: 5,385 Forumite
    I think a more sensible idea is instead offer negative equity mortgage guarantees for existing owners. That way people can move to properties equal or less to their present loan value if in negative equity. It would add fluidity into the market, protect the banks, allow prices to fall and be far less risk to the tax payer than help to buy.
    :exclamatiScams - Shared Equity, Shared Ownership, Newbuy, Firstbuy and Help to Buy.

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  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
    HAMISH_MCTAVISH Posts: 28,592 Forumite
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    Yes, it's going ahead.

    Yes, prices will rise and continue to rise through the next 15 years or so.

    Yes, the next boom will make the last one look small by comparison.

    But look, you've had 5 years to take advantage of these artificially low prices, so it's your own fault if you haven't done so yet.
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  • carslet
    carslet Posts: 360 Forumite
    Yes, it's going ahead.

    Yes, prices will rise and continue to rise through the next 15 years or so.

    Yes, the next boom will make the last one look small by comparison.

    But look, you've had 5 years to take advantage of these artificially low prices, so it's your own fault if you haven't done so yet.

    exactly , so very true
  • Percy1983
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    Yes, it's going ahead.

    Yes, prices will rise and continue to rise through the next 15 years or so.

    Yes, the next boom will make the last one look small by comparison.

    But look, you've had 5 years to take advantage of these artificially low prices, so it's your own fault if you haven't done so yet.

    What if you where born in 1997?
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  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
    Thrugelmir wrote: »
    Not a guarantee it's a loan. Impaired credit applications will fall at underwriting hurdle. Days of bad lending decisions are over.

    Days of bad lending decisions are over
    - for now.
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  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
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    edited 23 July 2013 at 4:24PM
    This was talked about a bit on the radio today - with the majority thinking it shouldn't go ahead.

    Today's stories

    Help top buy is "very dangerous" expert warns
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/conservative/10197095/George-Osbornes-Help-to-Buy-is-very-dangerous-expert-warns.html
    George Osborne’s scheme to underwrite the mortgages of hundreds of thousands of home buyers is “very dangerous”, the Institute of Directors has warned.
    Help to buy could create new housing bubble, Osbourne warned
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2013/jul/23/help-to-buy-mortgage-housing-bubble
    George Osborne's latest attempt to kickstart the economy by underwriting a house-buying revival has been criticised by economists and campaigners, who warned that the scheme to partially guarantee £130bn of low-deposit mortgages risks creating a new housing bubble.
    Lord Mervyn King has warned today the scheme is "too close for comfort".
    Former Bank of England governor Lord King warned that the scheme is "too close for comfort" to a general scheme to guarantee mortgages.
    The Bank's deputy governor, Paul Tucker, also warned that it would be "unwise" as a medium or long-term scheme.
    "This is not a market that needs a permanent subsidy," he said recently. "They (home loan guarantees) are devices for getting out of a hole to dig another one for the future."
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/revealed-fresh-details-on-governments-helptobuy-housing-scheme-8727951.html

    The IMF and the Office for Budgetry Responsibility have also criticised the scheme.
    Both the Help to Buy schemes have come under criticism from bodies such as the International Monetary Fund and the government’s own Office for Budget Responsibility, which have warned it risks creating another property bubble.

    As I said earlier - this isn't good press coverage.
  • Percy1983
    Percy1983 Posts: 5,244 Forumite
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    This was talked about a bit on the radio today - with the majority thinking it shouldn't go ahead.

    Today's stories

    Help top buy is "very dangerous" expert warns
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/conservative/10197095/George-Osbornes-Help-to-Buy-is-very-dangerous-expert-warns.html
    Help to buy could create new housing bubble, Osbourne warned
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2013/jul/23/help-to-buy-mortgage-housing-bubble
    Lord Mervyn King has warned today the scheme is "too close for comfort".
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/revealed-fresh-details-on-governments-helptobuy-housing-scheme-8727951.html

    The IMF and the Office for Budgetry Responsibility have also criticised the scheme.


    As I said earlier - this isn't good press coverage.

    Graham you are going it wrong.

    Each of those should be a new seperate thread.. Hamish Styleee!
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  • Thrugelmir
    Thrugelmir Posts: 89,546 Forumite
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    As I said earlier - this isn't good press coverage.

    However no-one has said not to go ahead with the scheme though. The points that have been raised are valid and will no doubt form part of the final version of the scheme.
  • ManAtHome
    ManAtHome Posts: 8,512 Forumite
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    Surprised (not really) that there's no mention that 'the taxpayers' underwriting this scheme are currently coughing up £100 billion a year less than UK plc running costs (meh, billions are soooo noughties....).
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