Where can you afford to live in the UK?

wotsthat

Lagoon wrote: »

I don't think I have a sense of entitlement, but I agree that I'll continue to pay more rent than to move somewhere like that. If that makes me a snob, so be it.

How much more are you willing to pay in rent to avoid buying in this area? £20/ month? £200/ month?

Not much point living in a house which you feel becomes you if you're putting your financial future in jeopardy.

lostinrates

Graham_Devon wrote: »

I posted it because a lot of it is being knocked down, redeveloped etc.

This is what is happening to them...(as in this is a real picture from a street close to it).



The area hhas even been renamed in order to try and remove it's reputation.

Sure, the picture itself doesn' t say much.

I don't care for your assumptions about me to be honest as it's just set off a barrage.

Sure, posting the picture was probably wrong. I grew up in an ex council place myself. But it's not the houses. You can easily tell there is little care going on there. Hence half of it's been or being knocked down. "Swilly" as pricklepants announced is no longer, it was renamed due to the association with crime, drugs, gangs and violence. As I say, if you feel I'm a prude for not wanting to live with that and have started making insinuations about how I care for my son, then fine, but why you have done this I don't know.

I started thinking this calculator was just an interesting link. The way it's gone however I wish I never started it.

You raised the issue of family not I...I simply asked if the put look is really so bleak what is the point of continuing.

I have not ONCE made any comment on the way you raise your child.

You also used the word prude, not i.

I really don't want you to feel attacked when its not happening so I am going to bow out.

Lagoon

wotsthat wrote: »

How much more are you willing to pay in rent to avoid buying in this area? £20/ month? £200/ month?

Not much point living in a house which you feel becomes you if you're putting your financial future in jeopardy.

It's not about whether or not a house 'becomes you'. I don't consider these areas and think 'I'm far too good for that. I'm not living there, because those people are below me'.

Living somewhere when I didn't feel safe and comfortable would affect my health. It has in the past. I'm willing to pay a little more money to live somewhere where I'm not fearful.

Graham_Devon

lostinrates wrote: »

You raised the issue of family not I...I simply asked if the put look is really so bleak what is the point of continuing.

I have not ONCE made any comment on the way you raise your child.

You also used the word prude, not i

I don't wish to continue down this path, but you quite clearly insinuated I was a prude...

lostinrates wrote: »

So yes, I think you are perhaps being prudish, or at least self limiting.

You also commented on how I bring up my son or maybe shouldn't have had him here...

Or don't have a family of you really feel the outlook is so bleak, why wish it on your son?

As I say, I don't quite know how we got here. I was just posting a picture of an area I know to be troubled. hence the regeneration, renaming. I don't even live there and thankfully do not have to make the choice. My annoyance was with Hamish stating the poorer "should" live there.

All I said was that I would rather rent for more than buy in that area. I don't know what's so shocking to be completely honest.

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

Still ignoring the question I see graham....

So the market is allocating goods through price according to supply and demand.

If the people that can currently only afford to buy in the cheap areas could suddenly also afford to buy in the mid-price areas, what do you think would happen?

Do you think prices would rise until sufficient numbers were prices out that supply and demand equalised?

Or would we find some other way of allocating them?

Waiting lists or a lottery perhaps?

makeyourdaddyproud

Lagoon wrote: »

As I say, I don't agree that people should be entitled to live anywhere in the country. However, I do agree with Graham that I would continue renting over choosing somewhere like that.

I'm not going to deny that all of the 'low class' areas I've known have had a GREAT sense of community. Sadly, those 'communities' are built on crime and anti-social behaviour. They all get on very well with one another, because they all have similar morality and a similar lifestyle.

'several agencies and associations (including the North Prospect Partnership) work hard to improve the estate' says to me 'it's not a safe place, which is WHY people are working hard to improve it'.

I don't think I have a sense of entitlement, but I agree that I'll continue to pay more rent than to move somewhere like that. If that makes me a snob, so be it.

It is indeed a very nice area and I am confident you won't experience any crime so long as you "outwardly" fit in, that is own a cheap aspirational hot hatch, own visible tattoos and play loud drum n bass from your cheap Kenwood stereo parked outside your local Bargain Booze. You'll then have the cred to go with the cheap house.

Don't ever be seen going into a library, helping an old lady across the road or wearing anything other than McKenzie chavwear.

Ummmmm.... Like you, I'll buy elsewhere thanks

afly

Well that was depressing. cheers beeb

lostinrates

Graham_Devon wrote: »

I don't wish to continue down this path, but you quite clearly insinuated I was a prude...
this was tempered for. YOUR use of the word prude to which I was responding.

You also commented on how I bring up my son or maybe shouldn't have had him here...this was not a comment on how you bring up your son, this was a comment on the state of the world and house prices.

As I say, I don't quite know how we got here. I was just posting a picture of an area I know to be troubled. hence the regeneration, renaming. I don't even live there and thankfully do not have to make the choice. My annoyance was with Hamish stating the poorer "should" live there.

All I said was that I would rather rent for more than buy in that area. I don't know what's so shocking to be completely honest.

Graham, I apologise that you have been upset and reiterate i will not comment further on the topic.However, I do not apologise for my posts which I feel you are misinterpreting.

ess0two

Can someone give Graham his dummy back.

wotsthat

People moved to Plymouth to take advantage of Royal Navy spending and increasing international trade and the population grew rapidly.

If British people used to consider it normal to move to improve their prospects why can't they now? Lots of Eastern European number plates round my way so some people still consider it worthwhile.