We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.

This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.

Debate House Prices


In order to help keep the Forum a useful, safe and friendly place for our users, discussions around non MoneySaving matters are no longer permitted. This includes wider debates about general house prices, the economy and politics. As a result, we have taken the decision to keep this board permanently closed, but it remains viewable for users who may find some useful information in it. Thank you for your understanding.
📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!

Paying the mortgage

145791017

Comments

  • The average wage in the UK is about £23-24k, so a couple would pull in £46-48k.

    My partner doesn't work but I have a "good" job, or at least I think it is. Well above average salary. Without assistance the maximum mortgage I can get will be around £130k, enough to buy a (small) garden shed.

    My parents were able to afford a much nicer house on a single lower salary. The boomers did deliberately set out to create this situation by voting for governments whose policy was to push up house prices by both increasing demand and reducing supply. They now have very large assets to live in and are on the tail end of their mortgages, while the younger generations suffer the consequences.
  • ukcarper
    ukcarper Posts: 17,337 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    edited 27 July 2013 at 10:46PM
    The average wage in the UK is about £23-24k, so a couple would pull in £46-48k.

    My partner doesn't work but I have a "good" job, or at least I think it is. Well above average salary. Without assistance the maximum mortgage I can get will be around £130k, enough to buy a (small) garden shed.

    My parents were able to afford a much nicer house on a single lower salary. The boomers did deliberately set out to create this situation by voting for governments whose policy was to push up house prices by both increasing demand and reducing supply. They now have very large assets to live in and are on the tail end of their mortgages, while the younger generations suffer the consequences.

    I don't know if you know but house prices are cyclical so it depends when in cycle you buy and in relation to earnings prices have been as high as thy are now in the past.

    As we are talking average according to Land Reg the price of an average terrace house is £122k and with a 10% deposit you would be able to afford £145k.
  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
    edited 28 July 2013 at 12:25PM

    My parents were able to afford a much nicer house on a single lower salary. The boomers did deliberately set out to create this situation by voting for governments whose policy was to push up house prices by both increasing demand and reducing supply. They now have very large assets to live in and are on the tail end of their mortgages, while the younger generations suffer the consequences.


    It may surprise you to find out that housing never really registered with many a s an issue. They simply, saved, brought a home and got on with life. The obsession with HPI is a modern issue that has taken hold later. the real choice was simply buy and commit or rent.

    One of the reason governments are keen to see rising prices is it allows debt recycling at ever greater levels against nebulous assets giving a false economic boost. The fact successive governments have now taken up all the slack in the system and are now forced to guarantee further buying shows up against the wall the system is.
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

    "big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham
  • ukcarper wrote: »
    I don't know if you know but house prices are cyclical so it depends when in cycle you buy and in relation to earnings prices have been as high as thy are now in the past.

    So your answer is wait 10 years for prices to fall. Not everyone has that option.
    As we are talking average according to Land Reg the price of an average terrace house is £122k and with a 10% deposit you would be able to afford £145k.

    That's the average for the whole country. The average in the south is very much higher.
  • It may surprise you to find out that housing never really registered with many a s an issue. They simply, saved, brought a home and got on with life. The obsession with HPI is a modern issue that has taken hold later. the real choice was simply buy and commit or rent.

    It may surprise you to learn that before the 80s a lot more people rented. During the 80s there was a big drive to own, and people lapped it up. I hear them talking about how they wanted to buy and how Thatcher helped them do it, and how wonderful all that was. Wonderful for them.
  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
    The average wage in the UK is about £23-24k, so a couple would pull in £46-48k.

    .

    Think you started with averages.


    That's the average for the whole country. The average in the south is very much higher.

    Perhaps your salary isn't above the SE average.

    Is there a valid reason for your partner not working?
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

    "big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham
  • ukcarper
    ukcarper Posts: 17,337 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper

    So your answer is wait 10 years for prices to fall. Not everyone has that option.


    That's the average for the whole country. The average in the south is very much higher.

    Not the answer just a fact.

    Average wages higher in the South.
  • michaels
    michaels Posts: 29,234 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    The average wage in the UK is about £23-24k, so a couple would pull in £46-48k.

    My partner doesn't work but I have a "good" job, or at least I think it is. Well above average salary. Without assistance the maximum mortgage I can get will be around £130k, enough to buy a (small) garden shed.

    My parents were able to afford a much nicer house on a single lower salary. The boomers did deliberately set out to create this situation by voting for governments whose policy was to push up house prices by both increasing demand and reducing supply. They now have very large assets to live in and are on the tail end of their mortgages, while the younger generations suffer the consequences.

    This makes no sense. Santander will lend me 5x income with DW not working and 3 dependent kids. How can you be earning well above average and yet only able to borrow 4x average salary?
    I think....
  • Is there a valid reason for your partner not working?

    Yes, there is.
  • michaels wrote: »
    This makes no sense. Santander will lend me 5x income with DW not working and 3 dependent kids. How can you be earning well above average and yet only able to borrow 4x average salary?

    They best they will do is £145,000. That is over 30 years and with the Government's Help to Buy scheme boosting the deposit to otherwise unaffordable levels. At that rate I might just finish paying it a year before I retire.
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 352.2K Banking & Borrowing
  • 253.6K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 454.3K Spending & Discounts
  • 245.2K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 600.9K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 177.5K Life & Family
  • 259K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.7K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.