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  • PaulF81
    PaulF81 Posts: 1,727 Forumite
    I'm pretty much the same age and absolutely agree about the abandonment. A one or two generations have pillaged and raped the village, gone back to their middle class castles and pulled up the planning drawbridge.

    Which is why I'm abroad, not paying tax until I am happy to return to a uk without a boomer generation around. The weathers nice too.
  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
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    This is my point. This country has abandoned its younger generations. I'm not even that young, 33 in fact. But there is little opportunity to get on in life here and own a home, or start a family.

    Moving to the UAE is not an option at the moment. My health won't allow it. Otherwise I would have moved to Japan years ago.


    where do you live?

    I seem to know lots of young people going to Uni or starting in jobs, enjoying life, travelling the world, skiing and yes some even buying property.

    Of course we have had a very bad 5/6 years but hopefully we are coming out of this and things will get a lot better.

    We may even start building more properties soon too.
  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
    PaulF81 wrote: »
    I'm pretty much the same age and absolutely agree about the abandonment. A one or two generations have pillaged and raped the village, gone back to their middle class castles and pulled up the planning drawbridge.

    Which is why I'm abroad, not paying tax until I am happy to return to a uk without a boomer generation around. The weathers nice too.

    By the time you return you will effectively be a "boomer", you will have moved on and realise your angst was part of life, passed through by the current boomers.

    You will realise that you will have been just as much a pawn as those that have gone before. Boomers didn't create the problem, they didn't vote for it either. They just happened to be there during a phase in this countries evolution.

    Ken Livingstone wrote a book the title of which was "If voting changed anything, they'd abolish it". I am not promoting the book or views in it but an interesting title.

    Good luck in the UAE not every one who goes to that region comes back a winner in life, financially or as a whole.
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

    "big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham
  • PaulF81 wrote: »
    I'm pretty much the same age and absolutely agree about the abandonment. A one or two generations have pillaged and raped the village, gone back to their middle class castles and pulled up the planning drawbridge.

    ... surely you forgot to mention the robbing of the community chest, and putting down the mortgage portcullis....
    PaulF81 wrote: »
    Which is why I'm abroad, not paying tax until I am happy to return to a uk without a boomer generation around. The weathers nice too.

    That's wonderful. A small piece of advice, though. I think it could take up to 30 years or so before all the boomers have gone to the great gravy train in the sky, leaving their vast wealth to the abandoned generation below....

    Oh, and whilst it breaches the concept of not paying tax, if you do come back, you may appreciate the miniscule state pension that the generation below you will be slaving to pay for... and you will need 30 years of NI, so don't forget to buy a Class 3 stamp now and again....

    But hopefully you're getting a decent rent on your house here. You'd be amazed at the number of Brits who go abroad, sell their house, invest the money, and find they can only buy a much smaller one when they get back.

    Absolutely wonderful to be abroad, I think. Weather can be brilliant, but to me, the 'crab grass in the lawn of life' was not being able to get pork pies. Do you want us to send some?
  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
    ... surely you forgot to mention the robbing of the community chest, and putting down the mortgage portcullis....



    That's wonderful. A small piece of advice, though. I think it could take up to 30 years or so before all the boomers have gone to the great gravy train in the sky, leaving their vast wealth to the abandoned generation below....

    Oh, and whilst it breaches the concept of not paying tax, if you do come back, you may appreciate the miniscule state pension that the generation below you will be slaving to pay for... and you will need 30 years of NI, so don't forget to buy a Class 3 stamp now and again....

    But hopefully you're getting a decent rent on your house here. You'd be amazed at the number of Brits who go abroad, sell their house, invest the money, and find they can only buy a much smaller one when they get back.

    Absolutely wonderful to be abroad, I think. Weather can be brilliant, but to me, the 'crab grass in the lawn of life' was not being able to get pork pies. Do you want us to send some?

    Would Pork , however adulterated be allowed in?
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

    "big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham
  • Would Pork , however adulterated be allowed in?

    Probably not. To the UAE anyway.

    When living in Korea for 4 years, all the Brits were eternally grateful for a local character called Gavin (he was Scottish, but a nice chap all the same) who made and sold British Sausages. The full shilling they were. Yummy.

    He had a stab at pork pies for a while but they never came out right. Shame. But when I worked in Chicago for a year, I managed to smuggle some in from Toronto.

    It is a function of ex-pat life that there is always a "pork pie syndrome". Doesn't have to be a pork pie. Could be anything. Something you probably don't buy in England only every month of Sundays... but when you fancy it, and find you can't get it, then it preys on your mind - to the extent that you could kill for one....

    Bit like a mortgage really.
  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
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    PaulF81 wrote: »
    I'm pretty much the same age and absolutely agree about the abandonment. A one or two generations have pillaged and raped the village, gone back to their middle class castles and pulled up the planning drawbridge.

    Which is why I'm abroad, not paying tax until I am happy to return to a uk without a boomer generation around. The weathers nice too.



    you seem to have an (imaginary) slave fantasy; not dreaming of justice or fighting for equality but dreaming of being the vicious slave owner instead, hence your flight oversees to a land of equality and the free.
  • CLAPTON wrote: »
    where do you live?

    The south coast.
    I seem to know lots of young people going to Uni or starting in jobs, enjoying life, travelling the world, skiing and yes some even buying property.

    No need to gloat. Not all of us are lucky to live in such a well of place full of rich people and their children.
  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
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    The south coast.



    No need to gloat. Not all of us are lucky to live in such a well of place full of rich people and their children.


    I know a wide variety of people and I fully except that in difficult economic times young people starting out suffer a lot: that was equally true in previous recessions; but saying that youth have been abandoned is plain stupid.



    And I note that your ambition doesn't seem to be helping the youth of today;
    It seems that except for circumstances you would have looked after number one.
  • PaulF81
    PaulF81 Posts: 1,727 Forumite
    edited 25 August 2013 at 11:21AM
    Would Pork , however adulterated be allowed in?

    Not a problem. Can eat pork if you so wish morning, noon and night.
    That's wonderful. A small piece of advice, though. I think it could take up to 30 years or so before all the boomers have gone to the great gravy train in the sky, leaving their vast wealth to the abandoned generation below....

    Oh, and whilst it breaches the concept of not paying tax, if you do come back, you may appreciate the miniscule state pension that the generation below you will be slaving to pay for... and you will need 30 years of NI, so don't forget to buy a Class 3 stamp now and again....

    paying NI. its the income tax, corporation tax, rates and a whole host of other taxes i dont pay. seeing as i would be privately educating my children and pying for private healthcare in the uk anyhow, dont see any difference between doing this abroad and in the uk, abroad being about 40k cheaper per annum in tax.

    30 years swanning the globe suits me fine. the reality is, defined benefits, in particular the nhs budget as defined as per retiree is going to be scythed in the next decade due to political pressure and the demographics hump and i expect average life expectancies to fall.

    no pork pie syndrome for me. M and S and John Lewis are both over here, all their produce is imported in by air freight. its just like living in the uk.

    you can even get exactly the samerubbish furniture down at ikea too.

    what do i miss? gardening and walks in forests.
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