Is it time to give up?

ILW

Is GDP the only thing that matters?

grizzly1911

ILW wrote: »

Is GDP the only thing that matters?

Without it there is no wriggle room.

Thrugelmir

grizzly1911 wrote: »

Without it there is no wriggle room.

Balance of payments is a major concern yet receives scant media coverage.

Thrugelmir

Originally Posted by HAMISH_MCTAVISH
Government cannot force rebalancing.

They can however create conditions and implement policies which incentivise rebalancing.

Although these seem not to have worked.

Perhaps because rebalancing is the wrong thing to do?

The transformation of the public sector alone may well take another decade yet. As the amount of work required is immense. The culture alone is a major challenge.

grizzly1911

Thrugelmir wrote: »

The transformation of the public sector alone may well take another decade yet. As the amount of work required is immense. The culture alone is a major challenge.

Perhaps it will never be fully transformed and isn't realising the expected benefits. Diminishing returns without fundamental policy change that would not be politically tenable.

grizzly1911

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Balance of payments is a major concern yet receives scant media coverage.

I agree, perhaps a bigger issue.

Running_Horse

As someone who works in industry, I simply do not understand this fetish with manufacturing. How many people would be willing to endure the conditions necessary to compete with China? The world has changed and to quote Mr Springsteen, those jobs ain't coming back. No way I want my child to do what I do; my hard work is so she doesn't have to.

Thrugelmir

grizzly1911 wrote: »

Perhaps it will never be fully transformed and isn't realising the expected benefits. Diminishing returns without fundamental policy change that would not be politically tenable.

The Civil service is far behind the working practices of large corporate companies. So there's signficant savings to be found in the areas of procurement, HR, payroll, finance, grant administration, property management and legal services to name a few. Under BIS there are some 100 odd partner organisations (DEFRA, Forestry Commission, Green Bank, Insolvency Agency, Intellectual Property agency etc). The aim of BIS is to potentially bring the main processing of these organisations into a number of centres. The operation of these centres is to be commercially run whilst remaining under ownership of the customers and stakeholders. So any cost savings can be paid back. The organisations will be free however to opt for another service provider. The result being that there is a real impetus to bring the service provision up to the standard of the private sector. Some challenge!

grizzly1911

Thrugelmir wrote: »

The Civil service is far behind the working practices of large corporate companies. So there's signficant savings to be found in the areas of procurement, HR, payroll, finance, grant administration, property management and legal services to name a few. Under BIS there are some 100 odd partner organisations (DEFRA, Forestry Commission, Green Bank, Insolvency Agency, Intellectual Property agency etc). The aim of BIS is to potentially bring the main processing of these organisations into a number of centres. The operation of these centres is to be commercially run whilst remaining under ownership of the customers and stakeholders. So any cost savings can be paid back. The organisations will be free however to opt for another service provider. The result being that there is a real impetus to bring the service provision up to the standard of the private sector. Some challenge!

I won't hold my breath.

CLAPTON

Thrugelmir wrote: »

The Civil service is far behind the working practices of large corporate companies. So there's signficant savings to be found in the areas of procurement, HR, payroll, finance, grant administration, property management and legal services to name a few. Under BIS there are some 100 odd partner organisations (DEFRA, Forestry Commission, Green Bank, Insolvency Agency, Intellectual Property agency etc). The aim of BIS is to potentially bring the main processing of these organisations into a number of centres. The operation of these centres is to be commercially run whilst remaining under ownership of the customers and stakeholders. So any cost savings can be paid back. The organisations will be free however to opt for another service provider. The result being that there is a real impetus to bring the service provision up to the standard of the private sector. Some challenge!

So the answer is more centralisation?

Whatever does it mean to say the operational centres will be commercially run?

How do you run a commercial centres with dozens of owners?

Are there parallels in the private sector; do Tescos, Sainsburys, Morrisons share such centres?