Teaching Training Courses

truly86

Hi,

I would like some advice on some teacher training courses in the West Midlands. Recently I have taken the position as a cover supervisor with a teaching agency and have worked in four schools in the West Midlands. I really enjoy it and I am thinking about gaining more skills and a qualification to teach full time.

I know that the first course I should look at is a PGCE, but to be honest, I am weighing up the pros and cons of it. Those being money (£9000), and having to live with my parents for another year and not having a proper income. A friend has mentioned doing a GTP. I did look into this a while ago but can't find any establishments in Birmingham that teach it.

Can you please recommend any other affordable courses that I can do?

Many thanks

Dunroamin

Do you already have a degree? If so, what age/subject do you want to teach?

Funky_Bold_Ribena

http://dtlls.co.uk/dtlls/

Speak to your head to see if this will be supported by the school, they deliver this in Bournville as well.

rageagainstessays

What about newman college?
I've heard they do teacher training from a few people- or there's the university of Warwick which isn't that far from Birmingham or there's the university of Birmingham in Birmingham

http://www.newman.ac.uk/teacher-training/803
http://www.birmingham.ac.uk/schools/edacs/departments/english/postgraduate/teacher-training.aspx
http://www2.warwick.ac.uk/fac/soc/wie/itt/gtp/

Brassedoff

Warwick Uni which is in the wrong side of Coventry (not to be confused with Coventry University or Henley Management College that are both also in Coventry) is literally on the wrong side transport wise to Birmingham, unless you take the train. There is a station on the Coventry to Brum line a mile from Warwick Uni's campus.

rageagainstessays

Brassedoff wrote: »

Warwick Uni which is in the wrong side of Coventry (not to be confused with Coventry University or Henley Management College that are both also in Coventry) is literally on the wrong side transport wise to Birmingham, unless you take the train. There is a station on the Coventry to Brum line a mile from Warwick Uni's campus.

Yeah, but you could just take the train to coventry, then the 'W1' bus from the train station to Warwick University

Although, admittedly its a good journey.

GwylimT

Warwick is probably the best university where a PGCE is concerned in the West Midlands, what is your degree in and what classification did you achieve?

If you do a PGCE do not live near the university you are attending, the further away you live the more likely you will be placed in schools near your home as there is less competition.

I did a GTP with a school, schools and colleges that offer the GTP must be outstanding schools as placements are in very short supply, it took me four years to get on a course at a school that I liked and this is when there was a lot of funding for GTP's.

I would personally avoid DTLLS as really the quality of those aren't that great, if you do this you would firstly have to do a PTLLS but it is only about 12 weeks.

Of course no matter what route you take you must have A*-C in English and Maths at GCSE and in your subject area, a good degree and then on course interviews you teach a lesson and then take an English and Maths tests to ensure that your curriculum knowledge and practice is up to date.

Funky_Bold_Ribena

GwylimT wrote: »

I would personally avoid DTLLS as really the quality of those aren't that great, if you do this you would firstly have to do a PTLLS but it is only about 12 weeks.

Of course no matter what route you take you must have A*-C in English and Maths at GCSE and in your subject area, a good degree and then on course interviews you teach a lesson and then take an English and Maths tests to ensure that your curriculum knowledge and practice is up to date.

You can do the PTLLS in 4 days and the DTLLS one day a month for 13 months. It is a very good way of getting a teaching qual without the second mortgage...and she already has a job in schools so probably doesn't need placements...if you are already teaching then DTLLS is a great option.

GwylimT

Funky_Bold_Ribena wrote: »

You can do the PTLLS in 4 days and the DTLLS one day a month for 13 months. It is a very good way of getting a teaching qual without the second mortgage...and she already has a job in schools so probably doesn't need placements...if you are already teaching then DTLLS is a great option.

Teaching is very competitive, people who have rushed and used the lowest level qualification do find it hardest to get jobs, the unemployment rate with DTLLS is quite high. Secondly a school has to want to do DTLLS, most don't and instead go for the GTP as they receive more money and actually get support from a nominated university, and they also have to be outstanding and offer a DTLLS in that persons subject.

You don't need a second mortgage for a GTP or a PGCE, for a PGCE you can get a student loan for both the fee's and living costs and if you have a decent degree and you are training in a subject where you are needed you can receive grants of up to £20K. PGCE's also follow the trend of no grant available to mean that new teachers in that subject aren't needed. Then a GTP also costs nothing you are paid while training and in some cases can gain a grant of around £4K again if you are doing a subject that actually needs to recruit more teachers.

Funky_Bold_Ribena

GwylimT wrote: »

Teaching is very competitive, people who have rushed and used the lowest level qualification do find it hardest to get jobs, the unemployment rate with DTLLS is quite high. Secondly a school has to want to do DTLLS, most don't and instead go for the GTP as they receive more money and actually get support from a nominated university, and they also have to be outstanding and offer a DTLLS in that persons subject.

You don't need a second mortgage for a GTP or a PGCE, for a PGCE you can get a student loan for both the fee's and living costs and if you have a decent degree and you are training in a subject where you are needed you can receive grants of up to £20K. PGCE's also follow the trend of no grant available to mean that new teachers in that subject aren't needed. Then a GTP also costs nothing you are paid while training and in some cases can gain a grant of around £4K again if you are doing a subject that actually needs to recruit more teachers.

You need to be teaching in the first place to even get DTLLS. I think you are making these stats up regarding quality and unemployment so unless you can point me to the research best stop making out that your opinion is fact eh?

I am merely pointing out AN OPTION. And hence why I told the OP she would need to see if it would be supported by the school.

Pointing out an option that hadn't previously been considered is the point of asking opinions on a forum...so stop jumping on my posts and let it lie.

Funky_Bold_Ribena

samc1234 wrote: »

Yeah, but you could just take the train to coventry, then the 'W1' bus from the train station to Warwick University

Although, admittedly its a good journey.

Or just drive...