We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.

This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.

📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!

Salary Scarifice

2»

Comments

  • Dan:_4
    Dan:_4 Posts: 3,795 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    edited 26 June 2013 at 1:02PM
    michaels wrote: »
    I was the one who asked a few weeks ago - in my case it is a pension sacrifice that I could reverse at any time if I wished but the consensus of the replies was that they would only count my post sacrifice income - however the company I work for only puts the post sacrifice income on the payslips as the payroll software does not support the pre sacrifice income being printed as well.

    On a side note is it strictly legal for them to fund your car purchase in this way avoiding your tax and yours and theirs NI? I only ask as I might ask my employer to do the same in future now I have heard of it....

    Pension payments, when deducted from salary in the normal way do not effect the mortgage - so salary sacrifice shouldn't either. (infact its better because your net pay is higher).

    Regarding your side note - yes it is perfectly legal and something that is backed by the Governement. It is not a car purchase however, it is a 3 year lease but you do get the option to purchase the car at the end if you want. It also covers insurance, breakdown, servicing etc.
  • BristolBob
    BristolBob Posts: 98 Forumite
    The car can be stopped at any time. So your earnings are 30k. It's not like a reduction in salary at all.
    If the car can be stopped "at any time" and the higher salary returned, then it is unlikely to be regarded as a benefit and will be chargeable as income, thus losing much of the purpose of the scheme. If you have sacrificed your salary then it is a variation of contract.
  • Dan:_4
    Dan:_4 Posts: 3,795 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    BristolBob wrote: »
    If the car can be stopped "at any time" and the higher salary returned, then it is unlikely to be regarded as a benefit and will be chargeable as income, thus losing much of the purpose of the scheme. If you have sacrificed your salary then it is a variation of contract.

    You have to pay a fee, but it can be stopped.
  • amnblog
    amnblog Posts: 12,761 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    Salary sacrifice is effective when the contractural right to cash pay has been reduced.
    I am a Mortgage Broker

    You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a Mortgage Broker, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice.
  • gazter
    gazter Posts: 931 Forumite
    Tenth Anniversary Combo Breaker
    vacheron wrote: »
    When we moved to a salary sacrifice scheme for our pensions a couple of years ago, this was voiced as a potential concern.

    Our company agreed that our gross salary would always be stated to any agency who contacted the company for such reasons.

    Therefore if I was in your position I would be putting down my gross (pre-sacrifice) amount because if they contacted my employer this the amount they would be told and the numbers would match.

    It may be worth asking your employer what figure they would give if approached by a lender and using that.

    Your payslip will say otherwise though. When doing affordability its the net they look at.
  • Dan:_4
    Dan:_4 Posts: 3,795 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    gazter wrote: »
    Your payslip will say otherwise though. When doing affordability its the net they look at.

    I spoke to Nationwide to clear this up and they will use gross salary not net.
  • horngkai
    horngkai Posts: 572 Forumite
    I can pay my nursery through salary sacrifice. Having played around with the mortgage affordability calculator, if I put my post sacrificed salary, I will be able to borrow less than if I put my normal gross salary and put the childcare cost in outgoing. Presumably this is due to the salary multiplier but in actual fact, because I pay the cost through salary sacrifice, I actually have more spending money. How would mortgage lender treat the childcare cost in this situation?
  • Kt8
    Kt8 Posts: 255 Forumite
    we mentioned it in our application and it was evident in our payslips- salary sacrifice cars with NHS.

    Woolwich were arsey about it and brought our affordability down,

    Halifax and others werent bothered and go on gross salary - accepted with Halifax no bother.
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 351.7K Banking & Borrowing
  • 253.4K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 454K Spending & Discounts
  • 244.7K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 600.1K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 177.3K Life & Family
  • 258.4K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.2K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.6K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.