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  • ukcarper
    ukcarper Posts: 17,337 Forumite
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    TruckerT wrote: »
    We have learnt in recent years that some areas are so essential to society that they simply cannot be allowed to fail.

    Many planning applications are granted on condition that certain contributions are made to the community's needs.

    It would be possible to require developers to provide rental housing at lower than market rates in order to be allowed to build houses for sale.

    But I agree that it would make even more sense to embark upon a programme of council house building similar to the post-war one.


    TruckerT

    Isn't that similar to what happens now
  • TruckerT
    TruckerT Posts: 1,714 Forumite
    ukcarper wrote: »
    Isn't that similar to what happens now

    TBH, I don't really know, but I haven't noticed any adverts promoting the idea that properties on a new development might be available to rent at lower than market rates.

    TruckerT
    According to Clapton, I am a totally ignorant idiot.
  • ukcarper
    ukcarper Posts: 17,337 Forumite
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    TruckerT wrote: »
    TBH, I don't really know, but I haven't noticed any adverts promoting the idea that properties on a new development might be available to rent at lower than market rates.

    TruckerT

    The way I understand it a certain proportion of properties on large developments have to be affordable this is normally achieved by co ownership or some houses being transferred to local housing associations


    I believe this is what CLAPTON is complaining about as it increases the price of remaining houses.


  • wotsthat
    wotsthat Posts: 11,325 Forumite
    TruckerT wrote: »
    TBH, I don't really know, but I haven't noticed any adverts promoting the idea that properties on a new development might be available to rent at lower than market rates.

    These properties are available on all developments.

    Usually identified by the messy front gardens, litter and the Sky dish with 4-feeds.

    Paid for by their neighbours.
  • TruckerT
    TruckerT Posts: 1,714 Forumite
    wotsthat wrote: »
    These properties are available on all developments.

    Usually identified by the messy front gardens, litter and the Sky dish with 4-feeds.

    Paid for by their neighbours.

    I guess there is not much difference between struggling to pay a mortgage, and struggling to pay the rent.

    TruckerT
    According to Clapton, I am a totally ignorant idiot.
  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
    wotsthat wrote: »
    These properties are available on all developments.

    Usually identified by the messy front gardens, litter and the Sky dish with 4-feeds.

    Paid for by their neighbours.


    We have on not far from us that was paid for by their parents in full.

    To be fair we also have another farther away, who has been the owner for many years who seems to like the meadow look on his lawns.

    Both built before social housing requirements.

    We also have some recent co-ownership properties in town that look as good as any new build.

    I accept the incidence of dereliction and "council telly" maybe higher but in some areas but same goes for some BTL as well as owner occupiers where owners don't care either. I'm not sure it is just homeownership I just don't think some people care full stop in this day and age.
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

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  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
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    ukcarper wrote: »
    The way I understand it a certain proportion of properties on large developments have to be affordable this is normally achieved by co ownership or some houses being transferred to local housing associations


    I believe this is what CLAPTON is complaining about as it increases the price of remaining houses.




    'affordable' in planners speak doesn't mean the same as ordinary English.

    It means that the houses will be 'affordable' to Housing Associations and will be rented out at 'affordable' rents to 'social' tenants.

    And indeed it is paid for by increasing the price of the 'non affordable' houses.
  • wotsthat
    wotsthat Posts: 11,325 Forumite
    TruckerT wrote: »
    I guess there is not much difference between struggling to pay a mortgage, and struggling to pay the rent.

    Don't see many people struggling to pay the rent in the affordable housing near me.
  • mystic_trev
    mystic_trev Posts: 5,434 Forumite
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    Seems odd that we should be making them more environmentally friendly and then simply scrapping them. Seems somewhat wasteful when so many parts will run for probably 3 times that long.

    Reminds me of the law telling us all Central heating boilers have to be replaced by Condensing Boilers. The new ones last less than half the time of the old ones - not good for the environment. They also have to be run for longer to obtain hot water, so wasting water and increasing water bills.
  • wotsthat
    wotsthat Posts: 11,325 Forumite
    I accept the incidence of dereliction and "council telly" maybe higher but in some areas but same goes for some BTL as well as owner occupiers where owners don't care either. I'm not sure it is just homeownership I just don't think some people care full stop in this day and age.

    People do seem less considerate of their neighbours these days. Maybe it's just a function of higher density housing - people's annoying traits are more easily spotted.

    I do have a theory though that there is an uneven spread of inconsiderate neighbours. On my estate they seem to be concentrated in the affordable section.

    Go to any new estate and the affordable housing is easy to spot so it's not (just) my snobbery.
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