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  • wotsthat
    wotsthat Posts: 11,325 Forumite
    Generali wrote: »
    It's a bloody disaster, Gilt yields have risen to the point where the British government is paying almost as much as the rate of inflation to borrow money for 10 years!

    The sky is falling in.

    2.29% this morning.

    Crappy nationwide ISA's pay that! What's wrong when people think they can't beat 2.29%.
  • Generali
    Generali Posts: 36,411 Forumite
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    wotsthat wrote: »
    2.29% this morning.

    Crappy nationwide ISA's pay that! What's wrong when people think they can't beat 2.29%.

    Because if the Nationwide goes bust you won't get all your money back but if the BoE goes bust then your Gilts will be the least of your problems!
  • purch
    purch Posts: 9,865 Forumite
    Well that's fooked up "Jeffreys" plans

    Actually having to pay to borrow billions was not on the agenda
    'In nature, there are neither rewards nor punishments - there are Consequences.'
  • wotsthat
    wotsthat Posts: 11,325 Forumite
    Generali wrote: »
    Because if the Nationwide goes bust you won't get all your money back but if the BoE goes bust then your Gilts will be the least of your problems!

    If the BoE goes bust I might get 100% of my money back but only in nominal terms - it'll be worth somewhat less!

    Are things so risky that it's better to pay the government to borrow money than invest elsewhere?

    I could guarantee an impoverished old age by investing in current 10 year gilts. At least in yielding shares there's the chance I might be able to support myself.

    Has the market really priced this correctly?
  • purch
    purch Posts: 9,865 Forumite
    Heard something rather perverse on the radio earlier....

    The next financial crisis could well be caused by the "fix" for the last financial crisis. Was stated that the last 5 years could be the most expensive years ever known in history.

    What was also stated was that we are currently writing text books for students to read and learn from 100 years from now.

    I think you will find that has always been the case

    2007 was in part a result of the policy response to 2000, and so on

    Short termism is and always will be the agenda

    Vision is always in short supply
    'In nature, there are neither rewards nor punishments - there are Consequences.'
  • wymondham
    wymondham Posts: 6,356 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Photogenic Mortgage-free Glee!
    long time until my pension so presume it's good the market crashes!
  • MacMickster
    MacMickster Posts: 3,646 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    QE and historically low interest rates throughout most ofthe western world have never been a solution to the financial crisis. They have merely helped to hide it from our view.

    As soon as the Fed suggest that QE may be brought to an end, then the veil has begun to fall away.

    Will they allow the veil to slip completely and look their true economic situation in the face, or else discreetly push the veil back into place and put that moment off for another year or two?
    "When the people fear the government there is tyranny, when the government fears the people there is liberty." - Thomas Jefferson
  • dryhat
    dryhat Posts: 1,305 Forumite
    Generali wrote: »
    Good news for drug dealers.


    Why's that then Gen?
  • Generali
    Generali Posts: 36,411 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    dryhat wrote: »
    Why's that then Gen?

    AIUI it's the payment method of choice for online drugs buyers.

    Perhaps I shouldn't believe what I read in the papers.
  • dryhat
    dryhat Posts: 1,305 Forumite
    Generali wrote: »
    AIUI it's the payment method of choice for online drugs buyers.

    Perhaps I shouldn't believe what I read in the papers.

    How many drug buyers do you think buy their drugs online?
    I would guess that it's in the hundreds.

    Compare that number with how many use cash.
    I would guess that cash buyers number 10s if not 100s of millions.

    So, if it's the drug use that bothers you, you should be more concerned about cash than Bitcoin.
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