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multiple work issues, valium - citralopram - work stress - and tribunals.

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  • falko89
    falko89 Posts: 1,687 Forumite
    I know all to well what you're going through as I seem to work in a similar environment, you can forget going to management etc in these type of companies they don't want to know. Your number one priority must be to get out. Make finding a new job the most important thing, no point fighting them, just get out.
  • meer53
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    Walstri wrote: »
    Should be don't ignore at your peril. OP's been off for over 8 weeks already and this habbit will continue. It isn't fair on others when someone this unreliable is asking to be trained, or they have to constantly cover for OP during absences. Best course of action to improve team morale is replace OP with someone who doesn't keeps taking time off work. Don't see how a work environment that bends it way back for one employee will help with morale, but a company that replaces OP with someone more reliable, someone you can count on to share your workload with is one that's an ideal workplace.

    You're a newbie, so is the OP. Whilst you may think your comments help, there are times when you should think before you post.

    The OP may be ill, have you thought about that ? Your comments are really harsh, i doubt they're helping. If i was the OP, your posts would have made me feel worse, there's not much advice being given in them. Just a bashing.
  • dickydonkin
    dickydonkin Posts: 3,055 Forumite
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    Walstri wrote: »
    Should be don't ignore at your peril. OP's been off for over 8 weeks already and this habbit will continue. It isn't fair on others when someone this unreliable is asking to be trained, or they have to constantly cover for OP during absences. Best course of action to improve team morale is replace OP with someone who doesn't keeps taking time off work. Don't see how a work environment that bends it way back for one employee will help with morale, but a company that replaces OP with someone more reliable, someone you can count on to share your workload with is one that's an ideal workplace.

    Well of course the habit will continue if no efforts have been made to resolve the problem by the employer.

    Work related stress is an illness - would you make the same comments about an 'unreliable' who is suffering from cancer and losing work or not performing because of it?

    I totally agree with you that it would be ideal for your colleagues to equally share the workload, but at times, you have to go the extra mile to cover for a workmate who cannot perform to their full potential because of illness - obviously in the short term.

    The scenario as you suggested would be an 'ideal workplace', however, in todays current climate where cuts and extra pressures are placed on workers, these are now a rarity.
  • Walstri
    Walstri Posts: 25 Forumite
    edited 14 June 2013 at 1:27AM
    meer53 wrote: »
    You're a newbie, so is the OP. Whilst you may think your comments help, there are times when you should think before you post.

    The OP may be ill, have you thought about that ? Your comments are really harsh, i doubt they're helping. If i was the OP, your posts would have made me feel worse, there's not much advice being given in them. Just a bashing.

    The one who needs to think before posting is you. The 'newbie' nonsense is completely irrelevant. Your post count is of no value, and if you think there's value in one's post count on a forum, you really need a life.

    The employer shouldn't have to bend his way to accommodate OP just to OP's life is more convenient and feels better. Either OP adapts quickly or eventually the employer will dismiss OP. Asking colleagues to cover OP's 64hrs [maybe more?] per year of work isn't a solution. Spending months trying to help OP means during this time everyone else has to work more.
  • dickydonkin
    dickydonkin Posts: 3,055 Forumite
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    Walstri wrote: »
    The one who needs to think before posting is you. The 'newbie' nonsense is completely irrelevant. Your post count is of no value, and if you think there's value in one's post count on a forum, you really need a life.

    The employer shouldn't have to bend his way to accommodate OP just to OP's life is more convenient and feels better. Either OP adapts quickly or eventually the employer will dismiss OP. Asking colleagues to cover OP's 64hrs [maybe more?] per year of work isn't a solution. Spending months trying to help OP means during this time everyone else has to work more.

    You really don't have a clue do you?

    If the employer ignores a situation where a workload or other stressor(s) is placing an employer at risk of harm, then as I mentioned earlier, the said employer ignores it at his peril.

    The employer shouldn't have to bend his way to accommodate OP just to OP's life is more convenient and feels better.

    The employer is legally bound to ensure the health, safety and welfare of his employees - and that includes physical and psychological harm - and if that means an element of 'bending' is required, then so be it.
  • Walstri
    Walstri Posts: 25 Forumite
    You really don't have a clue do you?

    If the employer ignores a situation where a workload or other stressor(s) is placing an employer at risk of harm, then as I mentioned earlier, the said employer ignores it at his peril.



    The employer is legally bound to ensure the health, safety and welfare of his employees - and that includes physical and psychological harm - and if that means an element of 'bending' is required, then so be it.

    You're treating the employer as some charity. They're not. If OP needs help dealing with stress, OP should see a doctor outside of working hours. The employer maybe legally bound to attempt to ensure its employees' health, but the employer is not legally bound to put employees' health before business needs. You really have no clue do you? I've worked in HR and had people sacked for poor performance due to health etc, and they have tried suing for compensation, and they lost. Keep living in la la land if you wish my boy.
  • Coraline
    Coraline Posts: 402 Forumite
    ohreally wrote: »
    Less than p/t, how does that work?

    I should have been more sensative, I didn't mean to be dismissive but I'm in a similar situation as the OP (and quite amazingly coincidentally on the exact same medications mentioned) and am clocking 70 hour weeks. Not bragging, and I don't like it, it's just the situation.

    From my background and culture "part-time" is 24 hours a week, hence my "less than part time comment."

    In retrospect I shouldn't have been that flippant, it's no excuse but I'm so stressed myself I've been snarking inappropriately online, and off.

    Apologies to the OP.
  • capeverde
    capeverde Posts: 651 Forumite
    Walstri wrote: »
    You're treating the employer as some charity. They're not. If OP needs help dealing with stress, OP should see a doctor outside of working hours. The employer maybe legally bound to attempt to ensure its employees' health, but the employer is not legally bound to put employees' health before business needs. You really have no clue do you? I've worked in HR and had people sacked for poor performance due to health etc, and they have tried suing for compensation, and they lost. Keep living in la la land if you wish my boy.


    Is right. I think sometimes posters on this forum should take a step back and put themselves in the other persons shoes, in this case and more often than not, the employers. Lets be honest here and stop beating around the bush, what benefit is the OP to the company? Businesses have enough hoops to jump through in this over regulated world we now live in, just to survive, so to have to constantly deal with an employees personal issues is a step too far. Now if we are talking a one off situation with the firms superstar, its a different matter, but this obviously isnt the case here. People need to start taking charge of their own lives and responsibility for their own shortfalls.

    Also this 'stress' tag needs dealing with before it gets out of hand. Its the lazy persons 'go to' excuse when they can't be bothered or need a rest. Im not disputing its validity in some cases, but it is far too over subscribed in my opinion and over worked doctors are too quick to sign someone off with this when there are little of no measurable symptoms other than those verbally related by the incumbent.
  • Wicked_witch
    Wicked_witch Posts: 722 Forumite
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    You both sound like wonderful employers and I can't imagine why anyone working for you would ever suffer from stress.
  • Coraline
    Coraline Posts: 402 Forumite
    I have lived and worked in several countries in my life and I've never seen anything along the line of being "signed off for stress" before moving to The U.K.
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