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Confused got our mortgage but not what we asked for

We got a mortgage offer of 120k over 33 years at 2.9% fixed for 5 years. Found a house got the survey done then this morning got sent the mortgage agreement which is different!

It's now 3.4% making it more expensive each month obviously.
It says if we don't take the offer then we will have to pay the valuation which we got free.

Is this normal for it to come through different to the oip?
Nothing has changed our end, the survey was fine valued bang on what we are paying all proof of income is proved as asked etc.

Is this normal or has our broker cocked up? He tried to say that's the one we got the oip for but it's not we have it in black and white what was offered.

It's not a huge amount more but I don't see why we should be paying extra really .

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  • opinions4u
    opinions4u Posts: 19,411 Forumite
    What's the purchase price?

    What's the valuation?

    Who is the lender?

    If the property has downvalued your LTV will have risen. This could mean that the 2.9% product isn't available.
  • ACG
    ACG Posts: 24,746 Forumite
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    Have you spoken to the lender or your broker? That should really be your first port of call.
    I am a Mortgage Adviser
    You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a mortgage adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice.
  • buppy
    buppy Posts: 57 Forumite
    edited 8 June 2013 at 5:39PM
    Purchase price 200k
    120k is mortgage
    It's with Santander
    Valued at 200k

    We couldn't get hold of anyone to discus it face to face today but the broker is saying its the one we were offered even though the paper work we have in front of us says different. Nothing has changed from getting the oip it just seems to be a different mortgage product. This one doesn't have the £995 fee but is more expensive % wise.
  • Thrugelmir
    Thrugelmir Posts: 89,546 Forumite
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    Looking at Santander website your broker is correct. The rate without a fee is actually 3.29%.


    The overall cost for comparison for both over the term of the mortgage is an identical 4.2%

    In effect your broker is saying that paying the product fee is of no benefit. Even less so if you borrow the money to pay fee and add it to your mortgage.
  • kingstreet
    kingstreet Posts: 39,352 Forumite
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    An agreement in principle does not reserve a product. That happens only when a full application is submitted and accepted by the lender. If the property values up and the other application data is verified and accurate, an offer is issued which reflects the requested product.

    There was an L&G Abbey Exclusive product available upto 70% LTV fixed for five years at 2.99% with no booking fee and free valuation and £250 cashback. Product code was K793H - you can see this on your key facts illustration. This product was withdrawn on 31/5/13 and its replacement is 3.29%.

    Is this what happened? What was your application date?
    I am a mortgage broker. You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a Mortgage Adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice. Please do not send PMs asking for one-to-one-advice, or representation.
  • kingstreet
    kingstreet Posts: 39,352 Forumite
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    I can't see any 3.4% products on the Abbey range. Are you sure it's 3.4%? That's not the APR is it? Please tell us the notional rate instead.
    I am a mortgage broker. You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a Mortgage Adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice. Please do not send PMs asking for one-to-one-advice, or representation.
  • Thrugelmir
    Thrugelmir Posts: 89,546 Forumite
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    kingstreet wrote: »
    I can't see any 3.4% products on the Abbey range. Are you sure it's 3.4%? That's not the APR is it? Please tell us the notional rate instead.

    There's a 3.29% 5 year fix .
  • kingstreet
    kingstreet Posts: 39,352 Forumite
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    Yeah. And no 3.4%, that's why I think the OP is quoting the APR and it is the 3.29% both you and I mentioned in the other posts.
    I am a mortgage broker. You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a Mortgage Adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice. Please do not send PMs asking for one-to-one-advice, or representation.
  • buppy
    buppy Posts: 57 Forumite
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    Yes sorry 3.29 % was typing with a toddler wailing at me.

    Kingstreet maybe thats what happened with the date thing , we got the OIP about a month ago but the actual mortgage came through yesterday .

    It just confused me and worried me yesterday that we were expecting one thing and got a different one. I would have expected our broker to tell us at least that it might look slightly different on paper but is roughly the same.

    I think the main problem came about that we were told the £995 was added to the mortgage and that our repayments per month would be £481 including that, then this new mortgage comes along and bumps it up to £497 a month not a huge different but we dont have a lot left over each month anyway so makes a difference to us.

    Had we known the £995 was payable upfront then I wouldnt have panicked so much when this one came through.

    From now on im reading every bit of paperwork to within an inch of its life.

    Thanks for your help everyone its put my mind at rest :)

    Im sure I will have more mortgage questions soon, hope you dont mind.
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