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questions about first written warning

Hi

I've just been given my first written warning at work and looking for some advice.

Is it a legal requirement to inform an employee in advance of the untisfactory performance meeting? In my case, I was asked at my desk to have a chat with my manager ( previously had a few unformal meetings) and we went to a private room to discuss it. Does this make the first warning invalid?

One of the items surrounds daily reporting of sales and how the e-mail weren't up to standard. I accept this point, however when I'm on annual leave, colleagues cover me and make lots of mistakes yet there is not even a talk from the boss about the errors. Is this discrimination?

How does this first written warning stand on my record and getting references from this place. If you received a warning, is it a good hint to leave? How do you get rid of the warning on your file?

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  • Cutzee
    Cutzee Posts: 102 Forumite
    Do you have any policies regarding formal meetings and written warnings? We did and I had to be given seven days written notice for a formal meeting and I was allowed to take in my own representative (union or trusted work colleague). I am not sure if it is a legal requirement but if your employer has a policy on this then they should be following it.

    The warning will probably be placed on your file but I didn't think an employer could give a negative reference these days? They can give a basic reference confirming what your position was and your dates of employment.
  • Cutzee
    Cutzee Posts: 102 Forumite
    You may find it helpful to read some ACAS guidelines around this matter if you have the time:

    http://www.acas.org.uk/index.aspx?articleid=2177
  • Torry_Quine
    Torry_Quine Posts: 18,891 Forumite
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    Cutzee wrote: »
    Do you have any policies regarding formal meetings and written warnings? We did and I had to be given seven days written notice for a formal meeting and I was allowed to take in my own representative (union or trusted work colleague). I am not sure if it is a legal requirement but if your employer has a policy on this then they should be following it.

    The warning will probably be placed on your file but I didn't think an employer could give a negative reference these days? They can give a basic reference confirming what your position was and your dates of employment.

    This is a myth. Employers can't give an inacurate reference. They can give a negative one if it is a true representation of the employee, this means that disciplinary proceedings can be included.
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  • Cutzee
    Cutzee Posts: 102 Forumite
    This is a myth. Employers can't give an inacurate reference. They can give a negative one if it is a true representation of the employee, this means that disciplinary proceedings can be included.

    I stand corrected - apologies :o
  • MrHR
    MrHR Posts: 24 Forumite
    You are entitled to the following which from reading your post it seems they have not done -

    1. Written/Advance warning of hearing with details of the issue
    2. Offer to have a Union Rep/Colleague with you in the meeting

    Also if its a performance issue have they given you clear guidelines of standards expected in the future? Identified any training needs? etc,
  • Simon11
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    Cutzee wrote: »
    Do you have any policies regarding formal meetings and written warnings? We did and I had to be given seven days written notice for a formal meeting and I was allowed to take in my own representative (union or trusted work colleague). I am not sure if it is a legal requirement but if your employer has a policy on this then they should be following it.

    The warning will probably be placed on your file but I didn't think an employer could give a negative reference these days? They can give a basic reference confirming what your position was and your dates of employment.

    I shall check what the formal documents says on giving advance notice.

    If they are breaking their own policy, should I keep this a secret and use it as needed further down the line if things don't go my way?
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  • Simon11
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    MrHR wrote: »
    You are entitled to the following which from reading your post it seems they have not done -

    1. Written/Advance warning of hearing with details of the issue
    2. Offer to have a Union Rep/Colleague with you in the meeting

    Also if its a performance issue have they given you clear guidelines of standards expected in the future? Identified any training needs? etc,

    They have given me guidelines and I shall be meeting with my manager regularly, so I can see how I am performing.

    At the first informal meeting, it rose that I should attend a course, however after delays due to other colleagues the date will only be a week or two before the end of stage one review. I have mentioned this to the boss, as there will be things I can learn from this to help, however I won't have enough time to demostrate these new skills.
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  • MrHR
    MrHR Posts: 24 Forumite
    Please document things such as the above in terms of speaking to your Manager about the course etc, - Also if you don't mind me asking do you work for a big company? Most have separate procedures for capability these days (Although they don't have too but it's becoming more common as its seen as good practise)
  • Takeaway_Addict
    Takeaway_Addict Posts: 6,538 Forumite
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    How long have you actually worked for the company?
    Don't trust a forum for advice. Get proper paid advice. Any advice given should always be checked
  • Simon11
    Simon11 Posts: 808 Forumite
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    When you talk about document, do you mean writing it down? And or passing to manager? Should i e-mail the boss with my corncerns about the course so that it is documented?

    I work for a large company.
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